Joolz - Aer² Nest to seat (440200-M, 440210-M, etc.)

Joolz Aer 2 is worth checking out for something compact. I know many apartment dwellers in NYC use that as their main.

It fits into an overhead bin in an airplane, that should be compact enough. I think the Joolz aer is superior to the yoyos that were popular. But the joolz aer 2 has this nest to seat package that give you parent facing: [https://www.joolz.com/us/en/strollers/joolz-aer2-nest-to-seat-us.html](https://www.joolz.com/us/en/strollers/joolz-aer2-nest-to-seat-us.html)

The new joolz aer 2 actually has a full recline. You can probably transition to it with a 1 or 2 month old if you feel confident and safe.

Do you have an elevator or are you going to be going up and down a lot of stairs to get your stroller in and out of your apartment. If you have lots of stairs you might want to look at something like the Joolz Aer 2. It has an almost full recline which means an infant can use it much earlier than a the old Aer+ that did not recline. I live in new york, some people swear by uppa baby vista/cruz. My guess is those people don't have stairs. Nuna Triv/Swiv is kind of a weight compromise between the Vista Cruz and going travel stroller like the Joolz Aer 2. Nuna bassinet for the triv is expensive, but I was able to sell mine for the same price I bought it used after 3 months. But you will only use the bassinet for the first 3 months.

General consensus is Joolz Aer usurped the yoyo for best lightweight travel stroller that fits in an airplane overhead. Swiv and triv are like light and easy to fold versions of the uppababy cruz. Triv/swiv allow the chair to face backwards towards a part which some people like during the transition out of the bassinet. Other parents don't care going straight to forward facing seats. The new joolz aer has a full recline which means you might be able skip buying a bassinet attachment if you feel comfortable strapping in the newborn. It seems like the hive mind 5 years ago was either yoyo or uppababy cruz. But these days it's definitely joolz aer, but a toss up between uppababy or nuna for the cruz/triv/swiv form factor. Cruz is harder to fold and bigger folded, but more durable. Triv/swiv is smaller folder, lighter, and has a one handed fold at the cost of durability. If you have an elevator building and storage space uppababy seems nice.... But if you need to carry a stroller up stairs in a walk up brownstone the lightweight nuna strollers might be a better option. I have both a swiv and aer+. I like having both for different types of outings. But probably should have gotten a used joolz aer to save money as a travel beater stroller.

We are leaning towards Joolz Aer2 with the next to seat attachment. Love that we can keep baby parent facing upto 15 months and its newborn ready. 

If you want baby to be able to face you Joolz Aer2 with the nest to seat is worth looking at. A lot of people like the Stokke yoyo which you can also get a bassinet/cot attachment for, I personally struggled closing it but my husband had no issues. If you don’t care about baby facing you then you’ll want something with a lay flat seat like the Silver Cross Jet 5 or Nuna Trvl LX. There’s also the option of travel strollers that don’t lie flat that you can connect the infant seat to, but that would mean needing your car seat every time you take baby out until they’re big enough to sit in the regular stroller seat

If I could go back and do it all again I would do the Joolz Aer2 with the Nest to Seat or the Uppababy Minu v3. The full size strollers are so heavy and bulky and you can get most of the same functions in a much more compact stroller.

Yeah, the Doona is problematic for several reasons. But, the worst part is it is very very very heavy. If I could go back and do it all over again here are a few options I would do if money were no object I have a Cybex Balios S Lux with Aton G Swivel car seat and Cot a Lux Bassinet. I love them! My mom group has an Uppababy Vista V3, Mockingbird Single to Double, Uppababy Cruz, Bugaboo Fox 5, and Babyzen Yoyo. I personally think that my Cybex setup is nicer and smoother than any of their strollers. However, we travel a lot and the Balios is on the larger side and the Cot s Lux is big. But, it is not bigger than any mentioned above besides the Yoyo. Because they're bulkier, there isn't a bag you can put the frame with or bassinet attachment with and it would be near impossible to fly with, in my opinion, because they'd get damaged. So, I went ahead and got a compact travel stroller to use when I'm out and about with the baby by myself and when we are traveling. I also got a secondary car seat for air travel that is lighter. I went with the Joolz Aer 2 with the Nest 2 Seat (bassinet basically) and the Nuna Pipa Aire. It's got a one hand fold, very light, very compact (overhead bin approved), nice feel, easy to use, etc. If you ever go jogging/walking on trails/live somewhere with uneven sidewalks (which I do), it is worth noting that you need a "jogging" stroller (3 wheels, all larger). Even the Balios, Vista, etc. are not going to handle these conditions very well - especially not until baby is 6+ months and can use the seat instead of the bassinet option. I wish I would've gotten a jogging stroller too for when I want to do these things. I've tested several and am looking into getting one. If I had to go back and do it all over again with no budget, I would do this: 1. Nina Pipa Aire Car seat 2. Joolz Aer 2 with Nest 2 Seat OR Uppababy Minu V3 with Minu Bassinet 3. Thule Urban Glide 3 (there is a bassinet attachment and it has car seat adapters for Nuna) Basically, I do don't think it's possible to have a travel system that "does it all" so it comes down to what is important to you. But, I promise at some point you will want a more compact and lightweight option because WHEW things start getting heavy as they get heavier and there's nothing worse than your child screaming in the car while you struggle to collapse and breakdown their stroller and put it in the back.

Sadly you can either have: A. Bulky, heavier, good suspension, good for mixed terrain OR B. Lightweight, smaller wheels, more bumpy, not good on mixed terrain, small fold I have done so much research and tried so many and they just do not exist all in one. I do firmly believe that the top "best of both worlds" strollers with a bassinet/pramette attachment option are the Joolz Aer 2 and the Uppababy Minu V3. However, both of these are more expensive. For a more budget option, bombi bebee V2 or Ergo Metro 3. Once you pick a stroller, just look what car seats they are compatible with and just get the most affordable one. All car seats are held to the same safety standards.

I've come to the conclusion that the Joolz and Minu are the best. I feel like the Ergo Metro 3 is very similar to the Minu and a good bit cheaper

If I was happy with the baby facing outwards I’d get the Bugaboo Butterfly 2 because I think it’s the overall best model at the moment, and I think it has the longest backboard so will last longest. If I wanted the baby to be facing me, the Joolz Aer 2’s Nest To Seat is the only option I believe beyond the bassinet stage. I took my main pram with me on holiday when my baby was 5mo and we checked the pram in the Stokke Pram Pack and it came out perfect both times. It was designed with baggage handlers to protect pushchairs and it worked for us (and we were able to pack all our nappies in there too!)

Another vote for the joolz aer2! I sold my yoyo3 to get the joolz as the yoyo fold was really annoying. I've also just purchased the nest to seat so that baby can be parent facing as she's still quite young. You won't find many on the 2nd hand market as the model is new but I think it's worth getting the aer2 over older models. It also has a long warranty!

Another vote for the joolz aer2! I sold my yoyo3 to get the joolz as the yoyo fold was really annoying. I've also just purchased the nest to seat so that baby can be parent facing as she's still quite young. You won't find many on the 2nd hand market as the model is new but I think it's worth getting the aer2 over older models. It also has a long warranty!

The aer 2 has a built in footrest! I originally had a yoyo and sold it to get a joolz aer2 and love it.

I travelled with my 4 months old and did extensive research on this. You are lucky cause the joolz aer plus just came out with a parenr facing seat that is perfect for this age! It looks amazing. I got a cybex eezy twist and it worked well for us but it’s kind if a hybrid. The larger wheels worked well for our destination.

Have you looked at the Joolz Aer2 with the Nest to Seat option? - Parent facing option - Newborn recline - Smaller folded than both the Skip and Butterfly - Lighter than both the Skip and Butterfly. We had a Skip3 but returned it due to it not staying in the folded position when picked up (opens without having to use the buttons on the handle which a few others on this forum have experienced too so not isolated) We replaced with the Joolz Aer2. Very happy with it so far

The push is great on closed surfaces- goes ok on grass though i have only covered very short distances on grass to get to a footpath! Not tried on gravel

I have the nest to seat and it is almost completely flat in the recline position. Here’s an image of us the other day showing it in use https://imgur.com/a/LAmYUwH

Yeah I looked into getting it from babycare.nl for the full recline but shipping made it more expensive than getting the stroller with nest to seat locally so opted for the later. When baby outgrows the nest to seat we’ll see how if they can nap in the recline position on the AU model.. fingers crossed. We have a tiny car (3 door Jimny) so are stuck with travel size strollers only as nothing else will fit in our car

I too wish the aus model main stroller seat was a proper flat lay like in america and europe but we are loving the nest to seat we got for its ability to lay flat. Bub really likes being in parent facing mode it seems, so for me at least the Nest to Seat would be worth it as an extra even if the main seat was a lay flat if the Aer2. If this will be your only/primary stroller like it is for us especially so! Worth noting you can still fold the pram to the same light weight and small dimensions with the nest to seat which is great too for sir travel and storage in the car. There is however an extra step to fold with the nest to seat vs regular seat, but even so it’s very quick and easy to do, and still doable with one hand.

You can get the Nest to seat which has a parent facing seat (the seat seems a bit smaller as well so it fits my baby better than the full seat - for us it was worth the extra cost to aid the transition!)

I was on the 3rd floor as a single mom until last year from birth through 1 year old. Get a good baby carrier. Only live in a place that has storage for a stroller downstairs (my place had that). I had no unit or building laundry. I had laundry cleaned and delivered from a premium service so they bring it up to you (totally worth it), get groceries delivered regularly. Get a bugaboo butterfly or joolz aer with folding bassinet that you can close with one hand, don’t get the babyzen yo-yo (which I had) or Nuna trvl (Nuna is better but still bulky). Go to the store with something in your hand and try opening and closing strollers. Recommend Albee baby for that. Good luck!