Joolz - Hub²

I got the Vista and sold it, one good thing about an Uppababy product especially the Vista is that it holds up its value pretty well. I sold it for $100 less than I bought it from with 4 months of use. I soon realize that my baby doesn’t like to be restrained in a stroller so hauling 2 kids with the Vista wouldn’t work for us but a single stroller with the piggy back board would work perfectly. I ended up buying another high end single stroller called Joolz Hub2 and liking it so far. I really enjoy the smooth ride and I do notice the difference in build and ride quality between a Joolz/Nuna/ Bugaboo/Uppababy/ Cybex I’ve tried in store vs the one Graco sold at Costco.

We're in London and don't have a car - I'm really happy with our Joolz Hub 2 (though we're only 9 weeks in, so still using the bassinet). It's really expensive so I did get the bassinet as a hand-me-down (I imagine we'll give back if they have a second, and we bought a new mattress).  It's light weight, very manoeuvrable, has enough room when I go to the supermarket. Sometimes on rough ground it seems a bit juddery but that's a rarity for us so I'm glad we went for something less huge. When we move to the other seat I'm glad it'll be facing me rather than outward. One thing to think about is how much stuff gets sold secondhand after minimal use - we're now on a local parents' WhatsApp and so seems feasible you could get one pram now and then change if you have a second baby. I personally wouldn't get a double pram when you're pregnant with your first. 

The set handlebar was the main dealbreaker for the Aer 2 because my husband is over 6 feet tall. We went with the Hub 2 and it really makes a difference. He‘s a former nanny and said it was the first stroller that he could actually take a full stride in while pushing. It’s also a sturdier than the Aer 2 and rides very smoothly on imperfect sidewalks/paths. Still in bassinet phase, but I really like that we have the option for parent facing post-bassinet.

I started my stroller journey by buying a highly recommended stroller and hating it... and ended up with multiple ones, which turned into testing over 100 models and reviewing them :) That said: NOT LOVING: Uppababy Vista - rides smooth, but too big and bulky Mockingbird - awful, scary with recalls, doesn't drive smoothly as all Cybex Orfeo - too flimsy Cybex Coya - where do I even begin with this bad fold GB Pockit - not worth your fingers Ergobaby Metro - too heavy for a travel stroller and unfold feels meh SummerInfant 3d quickclose - too good to be true, super flimsy Nuna TRVL - too short seat, too big to take into the cabin and too expensive for what it is Uppababy Minu - too big for a travel stroller model, weird bumper bar and flimsy canopy LOVING: Cybex Priam - amazing, especially the e-version. If I were to get a one full-size stroller this would be my top choice Stokke Yoyo3 - most well-known and guaranteed on board Joolz Aer - smooth ride, great accessories Joolz Hub2 - solid mid-size option Cybex Gazelle - good for 2 under 2 Bombi - good mid-size option Bugaboo Butterfly 2 - didn't like the first version, but these upgrades made it better Mamazing - good budget option Zoe Traveler - amazing canopy and solid stroller Inglesina Quid - cute solid compact stroller

I've Joolz Hub2, which is lovely (I live in London and use public transport). It's definitely not the smallest/lightest bassinet + wheels, but my LO (now 14 weeks) fits in it nicely and still has a good amount of space.

I have Hub2, but I do like the idea of the new Aer and the updated design (softer fabric, hub2 has a bit of a rough one). Joolz has been purchased by Bugaboo, so they have tweaked some bits quite nicely.

I'd say you need: Pram with bassinet, where your baby will be for the first several months (6 or so), the seat itself. Then you need to decide if you need something compact or that works for different types of terrain. For that, I really recommend visiting John Lewis or Mamas&Papas. We personally have Joolz Hub2, because it's quite compact and fits in our small-ish apartment well. It wouldn't be the best anywhere but a normal pavement but works very well in the city. I like that the seat can be facing both ways - parent and world and can be swapped in 5 seconds. I hear one of the best prams for travelling is Joolz Aer which is super lightweight and can be taken on board of the plane as it folds small and fits the overhead compartment.

I have Hub2 but planning to swap for Aer2 when he's ready to sit world facing. I've tested it in JL and loved it so much. So light and soooo easy to fold (unlike hub2, that's some struggle).

We got friends who swore by Joolz Aer. So we went in, saw that new Hub2 was released, and bought it instead. I had no desire to spend time to even think about it 🤪😄

We've been using our hub2 for 10.5 months now, and I do like it but not everything. No issues with bassinet, it was lovely. Absolutely hate the shoulder pads/straps, so stiff and the fabric is very coarse, it's not problem now, but felt so uncomfortable for my little one when we moved him out of the bassinet. I don't like how the front wheels act - feels like even smallest uneven surface trips the pram. I find folding the pram very awkward. However, I do love how compact it is, canopy is great and basket is also very nice. Love that you can change the direction of the seat unit parent/world. Planning to get aer 2 when I feel that my son is ready to face the world 😄

Although we have a Joolz Hub2 which is quite similar to the Aer2 in many ways (but a bit bigger) I do love our stroller so far. Allot of positive reviews / comments and less negative on Joolz in general according to your post and that’s good to see ;)

They’re both good city prams (no idea about dogs) but storage is on the smaller side - but one thing to think about is if the height is good for you and your partner. If you’re tall you might find the handle too low down (and they’re not adjustable). If you want something a bit bigger without being an outdoorsy pram, a good option is the Joolz Hub 2.

Of the options you listed, the Cruz V3 will easily be the best for going over rough ground, but the same elements that make it so great in that respect also make it the largest and heaviest (26 lbs, I think) - you likely won't be able to gate check it. Unfortunately, the lightest/most compact strollers tend to have little/no suspension and smaller wheels as a consequence, so you may have to decide which feature you think is more important. Aer2 and Minu v3 apparently have good suspension and relatively large wheels for their class (i.e., ultracompacts), but will still have the most trouble going over rough ground. Hub2 is somewhere in the middle, although the suspension is a little firm and I don't love the fold (I think you have to reverse the seat first, and the seat removal wasn't super intuitive to me.) An important question here is whether you want baby to be able to face you while you push. If so, that automatically eliminates Aer2 and Minu (and almost every other compact stroller). Some other lighter reversible-seat strollers that still have decently sized wheels are the Nuna Triv Next, Bugaboo Dragonfly, and Peg Perego Veloce. Cybex has the Mios, but the wheels are much smaller (so it will have a tougher time around rough terrain). The Dragonfly is very tall when folded though (even taller than the Cruz), so it may not work that well if your trunk space is limited. If you don't care about a reversible seat, the Nuna TRVL/TRVL LX, Cybex Beezy (latest model), Uppababy Minu v2, Peg Perego Selfie Plus, and Guzzie and Guss Oxygen v2 are all lighter than 20 lbs, have a one-hand fold, and have larger wheels and more substantial suspension than the Aer2/Minu v3 (or any other ultracompacts, for that matter).

Just a note: the Aer+ is a travel stroller, so while very lightweight, it has smaller wheels than most "full-size" strollers (e.g., Cruz v2), so will likely not handle snow or bumpy terrain as well. Also, the seat is not reversible, so think about whether that's a feature you'd want. Highly suggest trying a bunch in store to get a feel for what you'd feel comfortable folding and lugging around (the push too, but on showroom floors, I think everything pushes fairly well, so it's not very stringent test). Cruz v2 is a good option for all-day use, but is not that light (about 25.5 lbs). Also, there isn't really a good handle on it (when folded) to carry with one arm, so consider you may need to make multiple trips from the car up the stairs if you have groceries or something. Cybex's Balios S Lux 2 is another option; about the same weight and similar wheel size (and suspension) as the Cruz, but with a one-handed fold and the bottom of the seat has a carrying handle you can grab when its folded. The Ypsi and Veloce from Peg Perego have similar wheel sizes but are a little bit lighter (unsure how the suspension compares) and both also have handles you can carry them from when folded. If you think those might be too heavy, there's (what I consider) a whole different segment of lighter "hybrid" reversible-seat strollers: Nuna Triv Next, Bugaboo Dragonfly, Peg Perego Vivace, Cybex Mios, Joolz Hub2. Of course, the trade-off here is slightly smaller wheels, so likely not as great in snow.

We went with Evenflo Shyft (their Doona knockoff) as our car seat and bought a Joolz Hub 2.0 stroller with bassinet attachment. I love the convenience of keeping the baby in the car seat when making quick trips, and we use our bassinet every day to take the baby on walks. YMMV! Nuna was just too expensive for me to pull the trigger.

For us parent facing beyond the carrycot stage, fits in the boot of our Mini, durable, comfortable for baby and not too big were our main criteria. I wasn't too concerned with it being all terrain, because most of where we go has footpaths and when it doesn't it's not at all pushchair friendly and we use the carrier then. But gravel is quite a difficult terrain so you'd probably want big wheels for that. We ended up with the Joolz Hub 2 and love it. We're three months in, use it every day and have used both the carrycot and seat unit. I really rate The Stroller Workshop YouTube channel for reviews. He's a stroller repairer, so is impartial and has a lot of experience, unlike the reviews by pram shops who are obviously trying to sell them, or mums who usually review before the baby has even arrived.

I have the Joolz Hub 2 for my baby and I’m loving it so far. It’s doesn’t feel unwieldy, but feels sturdy and I like the fact that my baby can face me when out of the bassinet, especially because my baby is really long so might be out of the seat sooner than six months. It felt sturdier to me than the Nuna which we also considered. The bassinet doesn’t fold on it like the Aer does, which would have been super convenient, and I’m looking forward to using the seat unit where I the whole thing will fold down in one compact piece. One thing about Joolz is they a ten year warranty, which made me confident that it would see me through all my children.

The ultra compact market really hurt the small sized pushchair market. I have a Joolz Hub 2 which is a small pushchair and folds small, but still has a reversable seat. I think you need massive wheels to cope with sand though.

I have the Joolz Hub2. Pushchairs are so individual that it’s hard to advise without your lifestyle and requirements. For me it was * fits in the boot of my mini * had a reversible seat so baby can parent face beyond bassinet stage * folded in one piece with the seat in either direction * handle pavements and well maintained trails * seat is newborn acceptable in case baby outgrows bassinet early I didn’t want anything too bulky because most of the time I am walking on pavements or smooth National Trust type type paths, and when I’m not it’s usually totally unsuitable for any type of pram so I use the carrier anyway, and having a big bulky pram for the 2 days in the last 6 months when I’d have probably appreciated it isn’t worth it for me. The 10 year warranty on it is also nice to have. But if you’re on muddy field with your pram you’ll probably have a different perspective, and if you don’t mind or want your baby to world face from out of the newborn stage then you might want a cabin approved pram from the start. Personally I love my pram and wouldn’t hesitate to buy it again. It’s easy to use, nice to push and my baby is happy in there. And to copy another user, in my baby group other than me we have another Hub2, Joolz Aer+, Egg 3, Oyster 3, Nuna Mix Next, M&P Ocarro. One thing I’d note about pram buying is that no pram can do everything. I see a lot of posts of poster wanting a pram which can tackle off road conditions really well while folding down to cabin luggage dimensions and that doesn’t and can’t exist. There’s a reason that farmers use tractors and not Smart Cars!!

I had a hyper fixation with the Stroller Workshop YouTube channel. He comes from a background of stroller repair so has a deep understanding of what does and doesn’t work in a pushchair, lots of experience with different models, and because he repairs them and not sells them his reviews are impartial. The channel is free, but you can get personalised advice on his patreon too. I also found an independent pram shop better than John Lewis, who I thought were a bit rubbish. They let us try out pushchairs in the shop. The other thing is to figure out what you actually need from a pushchair. A lot of people buy a really heavy, bulky pushchair and then get fed up with the size and weight and replace it with a travel model like the Yoyo because they actually never go off road and don’t need it. For me, parent facing beyond the bassinet stage, fits in the boot of my Mini, folds in one piece and is durable enough to survive more than one child. We landed on the Joolz Hub 2 and love it.

I have the Hub 2 and love it. It’s perfect for my lifestyle and preferences: lots of pram walking but only on paths and smooth trails (the off road walks I go on aren’t pram friendly anyway), parent facing after bassinet stage, folds up and fits in the boot of my Mini. Happy to answer questions if you have them

I can get it in the boot with one hand and holding baby in the other, but it dos feel heavy then, but generally it doesn’t feel heavy other than that. But other than a travel stroller like the Aer or Yoyo, it’s one of the lighter ones. I don’t find the seat pads particularly difficult. Something like the Cybex one pull ones would probably be easier but I’ve not struggled and we’ve had to do a lot of adjustments in winter because he’s in and out of his snowsuit which makes him roughly three times his normal size.