3F UL GEAR - Lanshan 1

Hi all, First ever post on Reddit, so bear with me. :) I'm looking for advice on tents. I currently have the Lanshan 1 (3 season). It's my first ever light weight tent and I bought it because it's relatively cheap (EU, €150/$165) and I wasn't sure how much I was actually gonna use it (new to multi-day hiking). I've used it for a few short trips over the past year and I like it: easy to set up, weight etc. The thing is that I (will) use the tent in bad weather. I'm based in the Netherlands (rains a lot) and plan on hiking the West Highland Way (Scotland, 96 miles/154 km) en Kungsleden (Swedish Lapland, 273 miles/450 km) this year. I'm not a 'hike all day, go straight to bed' person and prefer to wait out really bad weather in my tent. For just sleeping, the lanshan 1 is fine. But when spending more time inside in bad weather, it’s too small. I can’t comfortably sit up straight without touching the inner. Also, because the open space between floor and vestibules is quite high, my bag (mariposa 60) only stays dry if I keep it in the middle of the vestibule. Having only 1 vestibule, this is a bit annoying going in and out (especially in the middle of the night when it’s raining). So I’m thinking of upgrading to a new tent. Things to consider: - Will use the tent for 1p and I'm 6 feet tall. I use a wide rectangular sleeping pad ((I keep falling of mummy shaped pads) my pad is 183 x 65 cm / 72 x 25.6 in). - Tent will be used in humid/wet/stormy climate like Swedish Lapland and Scotland. - I always hike with poles, so free standing doesn't really make sense for me. - Tarp not an option, I don't like mosquito's and mud/water inside :) - I like the idea of two doors/vestibules: more storage space, my stuff not begin in the way when getting in and out and the option to open both vestibules when chilling inside. - Budget: I don't mind spending a bit of money since I will use it quite a lot, but a tent like the Bonfus 2p just feels like too much (€700/$760) compared to the lanshan and durston tents. I'm based in the EU and many cheaper US options are not so cheap over here. I'm now considering the - 3 season Lanshan PRO 2 (price in EU: €230/$250 & 1060 gr/37 oz) - Durston x mid 1 (price in EU: €345/$377 & 795gr/25 oz) - Durston x mid 2 (price in EU: €395/$429 & 880 g/31 oz). Wondering if people can say something about spaciousnes of these tents when spending some time inside? Can you sit up comfortably etc? Advice on other tents/options also very welcome! :) EDIT: Hi everyone! Thank you so much for sharing your experiences and ideas, really appreciate it! I decided to go for the x mid 2 and while looking for EU vendors, I found a second hand x mid pro 2 on an online marketplace in my country. So I now have the extra space of the 2p for less weight than the regular 1p (although I am spending more than initially planned tho, oh well). I expect the condensation will be manageable since I’ll be sleeping alone in the 2p and won’t touch the walls. We’ll see :) thanks again!

Thank you! Great points. The sagging fabric of the Lanshan is a bit annoying, especially when hiding out from the rain and I feel the tent becoming smaller and keep reorganizing my stuff so nothing touches the inner. Decided to go for the xmid 2! I’m keeping the Lanshan 1, nice to have an extra option.

Can confirm. I started out with the Lanshan only to buy the Durston a year later. The Lanshan isn’t bad per se, the Durston is just so much better :) I got the Durston on an online marketplace in the Netherlands, maybe you can find something similar in your country.

For my money, the original lanshan has been a very good value. Taking it out agian for two weeks again next month. FYI you may need to seam seal yourself. I also used a 3F UL frameles backpack. Designed to use a closed cell foam sleeping pad as pseudoframe. it got the job done but had a penchant for snapping a few plastic components.

Lanshan 1 or 2

Yea I have the Lanshan 1 and love it but the 2 may be better for more room and if you are wanting to open it up. Make sure you get the standard not the pro.

Lanshan 1 or 2, you can thank me later

Best? Not sure. My favorite, Lanshan 1 or 2.

Get a Lanshan 1 or 2, you can thank me later

They are trekking pole tents which I was skeptical of but I like it better. They are much easier to set up, lighter, and pack down smaller. The only downside is you can’t pick it up and move it once it’s set up if you want to like the one you have posted but that’s no biggie for me. Also, get the regular version, not the Pro. I had a pro and swapped it for the regular and love it.

Solid start. Great choice on the bag, the Nemo pad and sleeping bag and stove. I have the same style stove and the big round end like the one you got vs the jet is definitely the way to go. For the sleeping pad I would make sure the long will fit where you need it. Definitely get the wide but I have the standard/wide and I’m 6’2 and it’s perfect. If you are above 6’2 and it will fit in your tent go with the long. Also, get a Nemo switchback to go under it. It acts as sorta a boxspring and make your night wayyyy more comfortable. For the sleeping bag I would recommend looking into quilts. If you are going to go the sleeping bag route the Nemo is the only way to go. However I had a Nemo sleeping bag and swapped it out for a quilt and never looked back. For the tent I would also recommend a trekking pole tent. Look into the Lanshan 1 or 2. I have the 1 and absolutely love it. Get the standard Not the pro!

Someone else mentioned the (3FUL) Lanshan 1. From memory mine weighs in at about ~850g and packs down nice and small. Ideal if you already use trekking poles. Takes a bit of practice setting up to get a good pitch though so if you get one, try it out in the garden or something first. There are numerous YT videos of various mods you can do to it too to improve setup. I really like mine.

Paria Outdoors has a 3lb, 1p freestanding tent that is only like $160. Lanshan 1 is trekking pole tent that is only 2lbs and costs $130 shipped. (Before tariffs)

I was exactly the same. Actually got as far as ordering (and then cancelling) a Tarpstar as I decided to opt for a Lanshan instead (I now have a 1 and a 2). The ability to completely open up the side of the Lanshan made the difference for me, and I've certainly enjoyed using it.

I did look at that but I’m a bit concerned about how weather proof it’ll be. In the UK it’s generally frowned upon to camp below the tree line as wild camping is technically illegal, which is why so many people lug around hillebergs. Do you have any personal experience with how trekking pole tents handle strong winds?

You’ll be happy with the lanshan. You might consider the lighter fabric version of the naturehike 1p as well. I have upgraded since but still miss aspects of the naturhike from time to time.

I have an older version of the zephyros 1 man it was my first wildcamping tent. Tbh I never use it over my other tents now. It is easy to put up but very hard to get the fly correct at the ends. The poles are very intuitive however getting the fly taught takes a lot of practise. Test a lot at home or at a local park before out on the hills. The wildcountry tents are well made. It comes into its own in the wind and cold. It is very small and low profile. Because it is small and the fly goes low to the ground it is very easy to warm and stay warm. It is very well made so does well in high winds and rain. It has a small footprint so finding pitches is easy. Downsides, condensation, the fly goes to the ground so there is little air flow even from the end vents. you can unzip it a bit to reduce condensation but not much. In heavy rain on uneven pitches the fly is so low it can pool if the fly isnt straight down. The biggest issue is the size. It is very small, most people wouldn’t be able to sit up in it, it can feel slightly like a coffin. You can’t sit up in the vestibule either due to the zip placement. The zip doesn’t go all the way to the top so you feel like you have to crawl in. There isn’t loads of space to fit your gear in, pack outside the tent etc. If you’re looking for a lighter tent for summit camps often pitching and then just sleeping in adverse weather it is ideal, it’s a step up from a bivy bag or bivy tent. But it isn’t a 4 season tent and it isn’t very comfortable for more than 1 night trips. For most people I think there are better options it’s primary issue is size. Edit: slight rambling on some of my other tent opinions: I haven’t owned an oex tent but a couple of my friends do and most haven’t been that impressed with the quality. But they are often the cheapest. I have a very old vango mirage 2 (style is now called hellvellyn) and borrowed a vango banshee 1 for a while. Both are old but are good tents and well built. The wildcountry zephyros I think from a build quality is a step up from vango but design wise vango is better. The banshee is easier to pitch up than the zephyros. And the banshee is easier to get in and out of but I would trust the zephyros more in the wind. Rain they are both the same. My got to one man tent is a lanshan 1 with 3 season inner for weight and space but if you don’t have trekking poles it can be a more expensive option. They are also a bit like marmite some people love them some people hate them. Quality wise they can be hit or miss. Also because you often import them if you don’t like it or have quality issues you don’t have any customer support unlike the other brands.

If you’re mostly solo backpacking why are you looking at 3 person tents? Do you use trekking poles? For that price range I’d recommend a Lanshan 1, or 2 if you think you’ll have a partner sometimes and want to accommodate that possibility while only owning one tent

I’d recommend checking out the side bar which has an ultra cheap gear list. I’d recommend trying a nemo switchback which is cheaper and way lighter. For quilts check out iceflame or aegis max. That’s a really heavy sleeping bag and probably won’t be as warm as it advertises. For tent look into a lanshan which will be significantly lighter for the same price. A 65L pack is huge and that’s pretty heavy so I’d keep looking for a pack. Check UL gear trade as packs come up on there frequently