3F UL GEAR - Lanshan 2
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"A good robovac is a life changer. Even a $350 basic S8. It is a great place to start. ... I promise you that you will not be disappointed by a basic S8. It will change your life even if it can't fit under every piece of furniture you own. ... My two S8s just finished vacuuming our entire house in about 46 minutes. ... While my floors were being cleaned, I sat comfortably on our patio in the cool shade with a slight breeze and composed my far too long response to you while sipping a diet soda and relaxing. ... I will have to spend about four minutes maintaining my two S8s. This will be my entire contribution to my home floor cleaning effort for today. Four minutes!"
"Like 500$ these robots are currently the steal of the century ... You can get a mova p10 pro ultra (cannot remove its mops), equivalent to the l40/x40 for 500$ after a discount code"
"I got the Q5 Pro for $139. ... costs $450 less than what I paid for the S6 ... it is the best value option out there imo."
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"I even washed them accidentally and still worked perfectly fine afterwards."
"Been using them for about four years working out in my gym, and cycling daily (45+ minutes on a bicycle outdoors)."
"They last absolutely forever (I know 1980s models still in daily use)"
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"Coming from the Razer viper ultimate at around 74 grams to the X2 Crazylight at 35 is a surreal experience, the mouse is basically as light as a feather to pick up and move it almost seems like it's not even there. ... As a fingertip grip user the feel of using a mouse this light is bar none, it makes it so much easier to pick up and re adjust and just moving it around with your wrist in fine movements it feels much more accurate and controllable."
"After the third run of another 15 miles a few days ago, I was sold and grinning from ear-to-ear afterwards. It's light, fast and propulsive, responsive, stable, nimble, grippy, comfortable, and protective. It pretty much does it all in a very lightweight package."
"it weighs under 350g"
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"The massive Hotel vestibule makes a big difference practically and psychologically. ... I keep going back to the CS Hotel because of that fabulous vestibule. You can sit on a chair inside it. You can scatter your gear around. You can leave it open as a welcoming large entrance."
"I’m 6’ 1” and have plenty of room. ... It was a lot less spacious than the x-mid"
"With one person, there is a huge amount of space available."
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"I've got the Wawona 6 and love it. It's really convinced me that concerns about needing a full rain fly are overblown. ... She sets the Wawona 6 up in a torrential downpour for three straight days. So much rain that at one point the ground couldn't hold anymore and it's just sitting standing water a couple inches deep. By day three, one of the walls got slightly damp to the touch on the inside, but otherwise everything stayed dry, which is about the best you can reasonably ask for."
"I’ve used my Lanshan 2 in heavy downpours and didn’t have the outer walls collapsing"
"From experience I can say for sure that the Lanshan 2 and Lanshan 2 Pro (they use slightly different materials) are totally waterproof in rain and strong winds."
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"when it comes to height support, I find that Durston tends to overestimate. ... I'm 198 cm tall, and only X-Mid Pro 2+ is usable for solo use. ... I definitely wouldn’t go for the one-person X-Mid 1 if you're around 193 cm or taller."
"I had a lanshan pro 2 and it was way too small, both hair and toes got soaked from condensation."
"at 183cm with some extra space for the bag with 450g of down to get the loft that tent was not enough. My head was barely touching the mesh doors of the inner, while my feet were already pushing the inner against the fly (with the tent properly tensioned!) Woke up with wet bag and cold as hell feet. Didn't bother to use it again."
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"Fooling around with a sharp carbide tip up just feels too risking that it will inevitably cause damage.............too much risk for too little benefit."
"I don't think I'll get another trekking pole tent because it's so hard to pitch on soft ground."
"I’ll take my big Agnes into the desert where a trekking pole tent would just be a nightmare to fiddle with - weight penalty be damned."
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"I had to seam seal the Lanshan, twice, and spray the fly with silicon to stop misting."
"Only downside is the tent needs to be seam sealed."
"Just make sure to reseal the seems on the tarp (the anchor for the rope on the sides) as they tend to not be sealed properly."
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"Personally snapped a three season tent on rainier from the wind a few seasons ago. Granted it was a big Agnes tiger wall."
"Hubba tent has a single top tube, this design is made to be lightweight but it cannot withstand wind."
"I saw over a dozen gazelles that totally failed during a storm at an Overland event two years ago. ... They did not hold up well at all. ... Guy lines were used etc, but they were some of the worst fairing tents among them all. ... I was a volunteer and had to go around taking stock of the damage and help people and after that I would not buy one of their tents. ... I was a volunteer at an overland rally two years ago and saw a bunch of gazelle tents fail in a wind storm. ... It was wild. they were the worst failing tents of all the tents there. ... esp if they are going to fail in bad weather."
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"I had a lanshan pro 2 and it was way too small, both hair and toes got soaked from condensation."
"The Lanshan design really doesn't allow for airflow. ... Leaving the door flaps open at night and camping far away from water was the only time I didn't have tons of condensation on the walls. ... After three years of sleeping with a towel near my head, I ditched the Lanshan."
"if you are new to these kinds of tents they can present condensation issues vs double walled freestanding tents (waking up because water is dripping on your face). ... My husband hates these kinds of tents, constantly complains about condensation"
cosmokenney 1.0Check out the Lanshan 2. The are 2.3 pounds in the double wall version. The single wall (Lanshan 2 pro) is 2.0 pounds. [https://3fulgear.com/product/ultralight-tent/lanshan2-classic/](https://3fulgear.com/product/ultralight-tent/lanshan2-classic/) I know you don't use trekking poles, but you can get the carbon fiber poles from Zpacks and other places that are ridiculously light and fold down pretty small. You would use them in place of the trekking poles for pitching the Lanshan. [https://zpacks.com/products/48-carbon-fiber-tent-pole](https://zpacks.com/products/48-carbon-fiber-tent-pole) (get 2 of them). My son and myself (and my Vizsla) before I gave the Lanshan to my son have a combined 10-15 trips on one and it has been great. It has more floor space than my Zpacks Duplex. More than enough room for me (6'1" tall), dog and a bunch of gear.
Check out the Lanshan 2. The are 2.3 pounds in the double wall version. The single wall (Lanshan 2 pro) is 2.0 pounds. [https://3fulgear.com/product/ultralight-tent/lanshan2-classic/](https://3fulgear.com/product/ultralight-tent/lanshan2-classic/) I know you don't use trekking poles, but you can get the carbon fiber poles from Zpacks and other places that are ridiculously light and fold down pretty small. You would use them in place of the trekking poles for pitching the Lanshan. [https://zpacks.com/products/48-carbon-fiber-tent-pole](https://zpacks.com/products/48-carbon-fiber-tent-pole) (get 2 of them). My son and myself (and my Vizsla) before I gave the Lanshan to my son have a combined 10-15 trips on one and it has been great. It has more floor space than my Zpacks Duplex. More than enough room for me (6'1" tall), dog and a bunch of gear.
I would recommend a 3F UL Gear Lanshan 2. I used one for two years then gave it to my son. The pro version is single wall and a little lighter. But I opted for the regular double wall version and have both the three and four season inners for it. So we can also use it for both 3 season and winter camping. It is as bullet proof as any silnylon tent is going to be.
I would go with a BRS 3000T stove which is less than 1/3rd the weight and really all you need. I have 3 of them. One for my Jeep, one for my son and one for backpacking. Plus its tiny and will nest inside a Toaks 750ML pot. If you use trekking poles. Consider the Lanshan 2 Pro tent (2.21 lbs). Or the Lanshan 2 regular double-wall (2.5 lbs). And similar price range. Bullet proof. Personally I still carry a Frogg Toggs UL rain jacket. I've tried many others and sold/returned them all. I also have a 3F UL Gear silnylon rain skirt/kilt for a little more coverage. If you are doing shoulder season trips, get some extra mid-layer insulation like an alpha hoodie or some kind of light fleece. That 32 degree down puffy probably won't cut it alone when sitting around camp at night and temps drop down to the 20s or lower.
f_det 1.0I'd opt either for the Xmid or a Lanshan2 (a cheaper version of the GG but actually better built IMHO).
A friend had one in Albania. He was.with his dog. We just crossed a pass and a storm came in, really strong. Tent was up in no time (he rightly pitched it lower to block wind better) and held until the storm passed, something like 4 hours. Dog was really scared of thunder and lightning but was quite happy in the vestibule. My splitwing leaked (so much for not needing to seam seal it!), the Lanshan2 didn't. I changed my splitwing with a cirriform, he kept his Lanshan2 and continues to use it with the dog.
fingertrouble 1.0I have the two Lanshans for a longer hikes - they hate brambles though - had to patch the Lanshan 2 three times so far! If four season tents are that pricey, then I'll just stick to what I have and live with being cold and windy! And avoid summit camping.
What makes it four season/storm worthy? Solid mesh inner, snow skirts/ lower to the ground, ventilation being closeable, strong crossed poles that can be doubled up and guys run from. DAC poles would be beyond my budget, but 7100 ones, or carbon. HH is a misnomer, most tents will survive a rainstorm, it's a false metric. I've taken the Lanshan 2 down to -3C on a cliff top, and in 30mph winds, the Naturehike on top of a tor at 40mph gusts. So yeah, I do know a bit about this! I also know that the Lanshan has issues because it sits high up, so wind can whistle through and it's best pitched in sheltered places. The Lanshan is definitely 4 season, just not the top of a mountain! BTW most of the 'European and American' tents are made in China, bar smaller cottage companies like Durston. Which I mostly can't afford. So it's a moot point to say 'hey look at these tents' when £400-1000 is not in my budget. At all. I am aware of the issues and that I might be looking for an impossible thing, but thought it good to ask. But I think it is possible with Chinese makes - btw Alpkit's stuff is made in China, and is often rebadged (their stove is Firemaple exclusive for instance) and fails badly - had about 3 things I bought there fail or be not very good (Solar Panel, Chair, Battery bank)! So no, UK/European 'brands' are not more reliable...so I doubt their tents would be better.
hackinandcoffin 1.0I have the 3FUL Gear LanShan 2. If you already use hiking poles. I like it,
Heynony 1.0I've used the Lanshan 2 (not pro) off and on for many years and like it a lot. Only modest wind though. For hundreds of solo trips I've use (the Cuben fiber equivalent of the silnylon Lanshan 1) the old discontinued zpacks solo bug net with the separate tarp, including many nights with high winds with no problem. I like the flexibility of the separate bugnet inner with the fitted tarp rather than the single wall versions of the zpacks and the Lanshan. Most nights I just set up the bugnet and I've gotten so I can rig the tarp in a minute or so if unexpected rain starts up.
Hun_Gee 1.0I second the Lanshan 2P (or 1P) good value, can be bit finicky to set up, and needs a couple of mods, but lightweight for the size and durable for the price. Have been using mine for 3 years now
jackinatent 1.0Lanshan 2, seriously. Me and my partner did the West Highland Way, TEAR, Offa's Dyke, various Lake District trips, etc with one and it was completely fine
For less than two hundred quid, I'd get the 2026 version of the 3F UL Lanshan 2
knight-under-stars 1.0Durston X Mid 2 Solid would be my first choice at that budget. Plenty spacious inside for two, loads of head height, two large vestibules, lightweight and a doddle to pitch. Another option is the Lanshan 2 which ticks many of the boxes of the Durston at half the price. It has to obviously compromise to achieve this but it's arguably the best 2 person lightweight tent on Earth for the money. Full disclosure, I am biased as hell, I have a Lanshan 2 and absolutely adore it. That being said if I had £300 to spend on a tent it would be the Durston.
I seriously considered getting one of these last year when I was looking for a general use hiking and wild camping tent. Actually I considered getting the version with the one person inner as that two person inner is utterly useless if you need to cook in bad weather. I loved the pyramid shape, the enormous vestibule (with the one person inner) and the carry weight. In the end I got a Lanshan 2 as I wanted the benefits of large vestibule space and a larger inner tent.
1.8kg for a tent you can't even sit up in? I'm not into these canvas coffins at all. You could get a Lanshan 2 for less money than that (currently as low as £93.95). Giving you masses more space, two decent sized vestibules and it weighs half as much.
The manufacturer's specs say 5000mm for the Lanshan 2. > Tent body is silicone treated nylon ripstop with 5000mm waterproof PU coating. All seams taped with waterproof, solvent-free polyurethane tape. https://3fulgear.com/product/ultralight-tent/lanshan2-classic/
laidbackdave 1.0I’ve used my Lanshan 2 in heavy downpours and didn’t have the outer walls collapsing, you may want to make sure your pitching it correctly. I highly recommend the lanshan 2, great value.
I got my Lanshan 2 UL tent direct from China on Aliexpress. It’s been a great tent, price is very reasonable and shipping only a couple of weeks.
lakorai 1.0Naturehike, 3F UL Gear. High quality, aluminum poles. Just don't buy them from AliExpress or Temu or else you will get hit with massive Trump tarrifs. Avoid importing anything anymore since De Minimus is being eliminated. Buy from Amazon for these brands. Personally I would stay away from any tent with fiberglass poles (Coleman, Ozark Trail, Core etc)
Fiberglass poles snap and break easily. They do not hold up to stronger guests of wind and bad weather. The biggest issue with fiberglass poles is they have tendency to split near the pole piece ends. Naturehike and 3F UL Gear tents cost in the same range as Coleman and Core tents but have better construction materials, aluminum poles and more mesh for better breathability in the summer time. They have full coverage rain flies so they also protect you better from rain and snow vs partial flies in cheaper tents.
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