Moccamaster (Technivorm) - KBT

Yeah I bought us one about a year ago. Got a great deal so I'm happy with it. But if I paid full price I would feel let down on the quality/sturdyness of the whole thing.

Fellow as a company scares me. Way too many failures across the board. I want to try one but my MM just keeps on going

Coming from a Ratio 6 owner who has used the OXO: Get the MoccaMaster. The Aiden is an incredibly cool piece of tech, but reviews suggest it isn't ready for prime time due to the software being buggy and unreliable.

Happy to help! Again, I have heard that the newer models do not suffer from the same issues (I have a very early Ratio 6 from 2021) and I can say that the coffee is VERY good, so I wouldn't fault you for going with the Ratio. I will also concede that their customer service has been very good in the past when I've needed it, but their response this time around really soured me on the whole thing. I am just at a point in my life where I really value longevity, repairability, and build quality over many other things, which is why I am not looking at the Aiden despite it tickling the part of my brain that loves fiddling with settings and software. Conversely, we have a MoccaMaster KBT at the bar/cafe where I work here in PDX and it's been absolutely bomb-proof brewing a full batch of coffee every few hours from 5am to 9pm with daily cleaning/monthly descaling. It has never given any of us a single problem. So, that's probably what I'll end up getting myself if and when the Ratio finally craps out.

moccamaster is bulletproof, beautiful, and makes great coffee.

Breville Precision brewer and Fellow Aiden allow you to tweak a lot. But the Moccamaster quietly and easily delivers good brews.

My moccamaster is from the 70's and still our daily coffeemaker... This machine is truly the definition of BIFL. I have at least three French press makers where the glass broke while cleaning/dropping, so that is also not a guarantee that it would last longer. Dropping this machine is bit more challenging... ;)

The last year I used a Moccamaster KBT I stirred as part of my process. I divided the total water charge into two parts. Closed the basket ouput. Added the first charge and would stir if needed to manage the bloom. Drain the first charge, close the output and repeat for the second half minus any stirring. The divide into two parts is because the basket wasn't large enough to hold four cups. However for the first few months of ownership I just dumped in coffee and water and pressed the switch. In the beginning of the brew I would run with the basket in the half open position and rotate the basket to and fro (you can do this with the KBT) for a uniform bloom and wetting and to get increased contact time. I loved that machine but I eventually switched to Aeropress after retirement.

Yes Technivorm needs to rethink the Moccamaster shower but I **never** had dry spots on my KBT. Ultimately I switched to an overly complex brew process but not because of dry spots.

I'm curious why you wanted a KBGV in the first place? The feel and fragility of the carafe has been something I've seen repeated online for a long time. And the abundance of plastic parts is also a commonly known factor. Moccamaster has lots of competition these days, so I'm wondering why you chose the KBGV? It seems like another brand would be more up your alley. Personally, I chose my KBT because I love the look of it, and I also love the durability of the boiler and the easily replaceable parts. I read and watched tons of coffeemaker reviews before deciding on the KBT and I saw that most coffee snobs recommend a thermal carafe over glass on a hot plate. I was expecting a simple, durable workhorse and that's what I got with the KBT. Plus I've had fantastic interactions with customer service.

I adore my KBT and it tops the list of several reputable testing reviews.

The models with a manual filter basket and no hot plate (KBT, KBTS) would have been a better choice then. You can do smaller amounts and brew right into the cup with those models.

I have a 15 year old moccamaster. It is indeed made in the Netherlands (Amerongen) makes a stellar cup of coffee and is a buy it for life item.

I'm aware, they asked where I bought it and that is indeed where I bought it 15 years ago. I think you can get it at the gourmet warehouse in Vancouver but I'm not sure what models they carry mine has the tall metal carafe.

Sixthing. Mine is almost 20 and works like a charm all I've had to do is d'escale and replace the seal on the lid of the metal carafe a couple of times

Congrats!! I'm so excited, my KBT model is arriving today! I honestly prefer the look of the KGBV but got overruled on the glass pot and hot plate hahaha. Such a beautiful looking machine!