BETAFPV - Air65

betafpv air75. 65 will be hard to fly outside when theres wind

Get the air75. U can fly it better outside. Its fun to fly it around inside too. Sure, the 65 will make it feel like u have more space compare to when flying air75. But what u can do is too throttle cut the air75 to around 75-80% so its not as "strong" compare to when its at 100%. Try it, its fun https://preview.redd.it/8qg6d1mf0qoe1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1950a28c4ddb20c8589495e1bda494b46b79fb80 I fly this air75 around the legs lol

Slight counter-arguments: Beginner doesn't mean cheap. Of course it naturally makes sense to go for cheap on the thing that you are going to fly around and inevitably crash and break, but for the goggles, it may be a better choice to invest in a premium set of analogue goggles. You get better vision and should you want to exit the hobby if you decide it isn't for you, you're still able to sell them with very little depreciation as there are many people who've purchased cheap goggles that are looking to upgrade. Buying a premium radio isn't going to enhance too much of your experience at the start, so I'd agree with your choice, but the goggles will, so while the ev800d's are certainly a good choice on the cheaper end, looking at something like the Skyzone O4X or Pros may be worth going for. Alternatively, one might consider investing in the HDZero goggles with a full analogue setup as this will then give them options to fly HDZero in the future without any additional large purchases, or another option could be to get the DJI Goggles V2 (which are incredibly cheap on ebay), getting the BDI adapter and an analogue module, and then having the option to fly any DJI O3 quad (again without purchases). Analogue on any of these goggles is significantly better than the EV800D's. Indoor tinywhoops I'd also recommend the Air65 at this time. I'd argue that it isn't durable enough, but this is offset by the cost (it's really cheap!) and even if you opted to buy a more durable 65mm (which would probably fly worse and be heavier therefore crash harder), you're still better off just buying the air65 and if it does suffer a catastrophic failure, then buying a new one isn't too bad. Outdoors however, I'd probably recommend getting the Meteor75 Pro. While the Air75 is newer, lighter and probably flies slightly better, the Meteor75 Pro is a fantastic quad, more durable (in my opinion) and the package often comes with a couple of bats, a 1S charger (and more importantly voltage checker), and a few other bits and pieces. The Meteor75 pro can take significant hits and I'd also say that repairing it is easier. The most common issue with the 75Pro is the antenna getting knocked out of the little heatshrink on the VTX and then getting disconnected. I think this is probably a better trade-off than the UFL connector issues that the Air75 has, as well as the canopy being... well... one of those. Maybe they've fixed the UFL issues or maybe they haven't, but still, if I was starting again I'd go for the Meteor75 Pro over the Air75. The only difference would be if I planned to fly both inside and out with it, then I'd go with the Air75. But yeah, to be clear, there's absolutely nothing wrong with your suggestions. They are solid choices!

Great recommendations all around, but I would say spend a bit more and invest in good goggles if you know you will stick to this hobby medium-to-long term. I tried two different low-end cheap box goggles from friends and it made me hesitant to get into analog (started with walksnail). But based on SchizoFPV's recommendation, I got myself a skyzone 04O pro with lumenier axii 2 omni/patch (RHCP) and it makes me want to fly analog everyday! Comfortable, portable, easy to use, and decent DVR (compared to the box goggles). You pay a premium up front but its worth it. I also have the radiomaster pocket and LOVE it. Will get the AG01 gimbles soon to upgrade the sticks. I have all three of the betafpv air65, air75, and meteor75 Pro. They are all AWESOME, and each serve a specific purpose. Air65 is incredibly precise and agile indoors (lower the cam angle and add expo to the rates), air75 is a raaaapid boi and soo much fun doing trippy spins around city architecture, and the meteor75 Pro is a freestyle juggernaut that I cannot wait to dive skyscrapers with come spring time. Don't want to turn this into a shameless self-promotional plug, but if you're curious about the 04O dvr quality and those quads, you can see on my IG page: [https://www.instagram.com/ksauce.fpv](https://www.instagram.com/ksauce.fpv)

I wouldn’t fly a 75 in the house. It’s just not fun and it can break things a lot easier than a 65.

Betafpv air65

You can fly outside with the 65 with no problem, as long as there isnt like a lot of wind.

as a first drone id go with a betafpv air 65 (indoor focused) or an air 75 (slightly larger for outdoors) with a radiomaster pocket (ELRS variant) and ev800d goggles. 300mah or 450mah 1s batteries for the 65 or 75 respectfully. and a whoopstor 1s charger

I dig my air65.

Radiomaster pocket, beta fpv air65/meteor 65/ mobula 6. Literally pick one the minute details really dont matter when starting out.

Unless you want to spend your kid's birthday evening at the ER, do not get a Mini to fly indoors. A Neo should be better. Get a kit with at least a controller. Even better for inside is a tinywhoop. Depending on budget you could get a BetaFPV Air65 and some cheap analog Goggles or go *fancy* with a Meteor 75 Pro OF and DJI Goggles 3. And a controller in either case like a Radiomaster Pocket or a DJI FPV controller 3 (if you go *FANCY*).

Air 65 or meteor 75 pro