Fellow - Ode Brew Grinder Gen 2 with SSP MP Brew Burrs

For those who use ode Gen 2 (with SSP burrs ideally), have you noticed a big inconsistency with total brew times? I think the grinder is a fines machine. I’ll keep the grinder at setting 6 for instance and every brew will have a different TBT with all other variables being equal. One brew will be 4 mins, another be nearly 6 and I can’t figure out what the deal is.

I’ve been brewing pourover for the past decade, so I’d consider myself experienced. I moved to v60 about 6 months ago (Hario switch) once I got my ode Gen 2 with SSP. There has been a bit of a learning curve and I do feel I am chasing the perfect cup, having to dial in and redial in my coffees regularly. I rarely can choose a grind setting and stay there for the entirety of any given bag. I’ll have to float between 4.2-7.2 as each cup brewed can vary in tbt depending on the amount of fines produced. Technique is mostly the same always - Tetsu 4:6. I brewed a near perfect cup with a tbt of 4:30. An hour later brewed another cup and tbt was 6:00 - again, all variables being the same. This was at grind setting 6. The only thing I can think of being the issue is fines. One grind simply produced less fines than the other, which points me to inconsistent grinding with the ode Gen 2.

Rocking a Fellow Ode with SSP burrs for both my MM and pourovers. The coffee is through the roof. Wouldn’t pay for an SSP burr new, but have had luck on eBay getting an SSP burr or Fellow Ode with SSP burrs installed for much cheaper.

I have two Odes--a gen 1 w/gen v2 burrs and gen 2 with SSP MPs. I wouldn't recommend the SSPs. The newer Fellow brew burrs are easier to dial in IMO. I have just replaced my SSP MPs with SSP Lab Sweets. They're better than the MPs for filter brew. But, I can't really say if they're worth the price for the upgrade. Obviously, this is a subjective opinion, so YMMV.

I have an Ode with SSP MP burrs and love it, unless you need that mobility with a hand grinder, I will go for the Ode for ease of use and option to change burrs down the line.

I would get an electric one, it really is worth the convenience on the days you don't want to hand grind. But the main reason is I don't think hand grinders make as good espresso, well most. They can make a soup shot so if you like light roast and dont want milk in it, they are good. If you want traditional espresso an electric would be good. Before the Sage I would look at the fellow opus or even the baratza esp which is the same brand as sage. Or if you can get a flat burr probably that 400 range unfortunetly. They have the df-54 which is cheap and the fellow ode gen 2. Not sure what type coffee you make but as long as you don't use an open face portafilter or want Turkish it works best.

The ode 2 is the best in that price range for pour over and filter. I would highly suggest getting that one. I love it.

ode with ssp is the best for the price. Other than that high end one that are in the thousands.

The ode is such a nice work flow your happy to use it every day. I've had tools that work, but I'm like, "Let's get this over with" instead of enjoying it.

Oh, but you do NEED to make sure to brush the de-ionizer, or it can back up and break.

The fellow is great for workflow and not a pain in the morning because handgrinding can suck sometimes. I might get that one, but it won't get you your daintier cups. It does produce a great cup of coffee. If you want that dainty tea like a cup, I would go with the c40 and $260 because it gives a better balanced, less citric acidic cup. Oh, and great extraction. The zp6 is too tea like more acidic, and the acidity is citric, not slick.

The ode would be good for the brevel. Depends on the style pour over you want. It can make pour over, but if you want a cleaner or balanced cup, then there are better options. For pure flavor and cup quality, the c40. I would choose electric though, so maybe an opus. Or I personally would get an ode gen2. With the esp doesn't your breville come with the same burrs? Maybe you can upgrade the burrs in the l the machine, but its calibrated for espresso and not great for pour over. With that, i would go ode gen 2, c40, opus, esp. And BTW, with pressurized baskets, the ode works great. It's not good at espresso with an open face basket.

If you can afford it, the ratio8 is supposed to be really good. Also, they have a chemex auto machine, not sure the brand, but thats good. The aiden is small and might be what you want. To get a good cup, it might be hard with the standard profile, so you might have to tinker with it. If you can get a good deal on a bonavita or mokamaster that might be worth it. BTW, the ode 2 is an amazing grinder. Its what I use in the morning. The only other one I would recommend, which is a little more, is the new mahlkonig x64sd. That's the one I wish I had.

Eagerly awaiting my Casa. I have the Ode 2 w/ Gen 2 and SSP MP burrs, but I get far more enjoyable coffee out of my Kingrinder K6. Richer fruit notes, more rounded sweetness. I experienced the same with pourover from a friend’s Niche Zero, so my current theory is that my palate just likes the profile of coffee from conical burr grinders better. Worst case, the Casa will do espresso duty and I’ll just hand-grind for filter.

Ode 2 ! And you can actually grind for espresso with the ode 2 with the SSP MP and by removing the clicks in the dial. It is not as precise as an espresso grinder but if it’s not your focus then that could work :)

I use my Philos and Ode 1 w/SSP for light to med/light, and old Virtuoso like yours for dark roast, separated. I don't like mixing dark roast into my main grinder and end up with greasy burrs. I wouldn't worry too much about dark roast tbh. Keep your Virtuoso and save your money, get better and fresh dark roast beans instead and adjust your dial. But if dark roast is your main thing and you don't really change shades, then by all means go all out.

Same here. Went with the ode gen 2 w/ SSP MP burrs. No regrets so far.

For your price range, the ode gen 2 is frankly still best bang for the buck if you need an electric grinder. The next upgrade up would likely be the timemore 078 with turbo burrs, but that will put it above your budget unless you can find a used one within your budget. I suggest looking at hand grinder if budget is non negotiable. ZP6, which I've personally not tried, comes highly recommended on this forum. Edit - I see someone here posted about the Femobook A4Z which has the same burrs that ZP6 has. It may be a good option in your price range as well.

I have ode gen 2 with SSP burrs and it’s been a real pleasure. 2+ years and going.

I have an ode gen 2 SSP Upgrade and I love it. Also I have a c40 and side by side they are both near each other in terms of grind size distribution.