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That Actually Last a Long time?",75,{"permalink":530,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":531,"user_opinion_count":532},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1oih1ac/help_me_stop_my_gf_from_getting_a_nespresso/","Help me stop my gf from getting a Nespresso Machine! [550-600]",71,{"permalink":534,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":535,"user_opinion_count":536},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1m9aoxo/differences_between_1k_and_6k_price_points_how/","Differences between $1k and $6k price points. How noticeable is it?",59,{"permalink":538,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":539,"user_opinion_count":540},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1s71as9/budget_is_not_a_problem_but_i_cant_find_an_option/","Budget is not a problem, but I can’t find an option better than Bambino, why?",57,{"permalink":542,"subreddit":543,"subm_title":544,"user_opinion_count":545},"https://www.reddit.com/r/AskIreland/comments/1qkn1aw/coffee_afficianados_of_ireland_lend_me_your_aid/","AskIreland","Coffee afficianados of Ireland lend me your aid. What's a good coffee machine for at home?",55,{"permalink":547,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":548,"user_opinion_count":549},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1n0av28/la_marzocco_owners_was_it_worth_it/","La Marzocco owners — was it worth it?",53,{"permalink":551,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":552,"user_opinion_count":553},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1p40bxf/is_breville_a_good_or_bad_place_to_start_for_a/","Is Breville a good or bad place to start for a beginner? [$1000]",52,{"permalink":555,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":556,"user_opinion_count":146},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1lslkfu/first_espresso_machine_does_anyone_have/","First espresso machine… Does anyone have experience? [$600]",{"permalink":558,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":559,"user_opinion_count":51},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1p2h6ol/having_second_thoughts_on_the_la_marzocco_linea/","Having second thoughts on the La Marzocco Linea Micra [$4,500]",{"permalink":561,"subreddit":562,"subm_title":563,"user_opinion_count":564},"https://www.reddit.com/r/gaggiaclassic/comments/1oata4f/for_those_who_chose_the_gcp_as_their_beginner/","gaggiaclassic","For those who chose the GCP as their beginner espresso machine: what are your thoughts now?",46,{"permalink":566,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":567,"user_opinion_count":564},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1sfs2d8/best_espresso_machines_to_buy_in_2026_500/","Best espresso machines to buy in 2026? [$500]",{"permalink":569,"subreddit":570,"subm_title":571,"user_opinion_count":21},"https://www.reddit.com/r/Costco/comments/1lvx1n6/costco_luxe_cafe_premier_499_plus_120_costco_card/","Costco","Costco Luxe Cafe Premier - $499 plus $120 Costco Card - worth getting?",{"permalink":573,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":574,"user_opinion_count":21},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1nr6lc5/best_set_up_for_a_beginner_80000_budget/","Best set up for a beginner? [$800.00 budget]",{"permalink":576,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":577,"user_opinion_count":91},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1qx3fb7/after_6_years_of_espresso_im_throwing_in_the/","After 6 years of espresso, I’m throwing in the towel. 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I work in a shop selling espresso machines. Ask me anything!",{"permalink":596,"subreddit":597,"subm_title":598,"user_opinion_count":101},"https://www.reddit.com/r/superautomatic/comments/1mc89d8/highend_super_automatic_owners_jura_miele_etc/","superautomatic","High-end super automatic owners (JURA, Miele, etc), what convinced you that you had buy one?",{"permalink":600,"subreddit":597,"subm_title":601,"user_opinion_count":182},"https://www.reddit.com/r/superautomatic/comments/1nhq5xh/im_tired_of_the_effort_of_manual_espresso_i_just/","I'm tired of the effort of manual espresso. I just want my milk drinks with my little espresso in there, and particularly iced. What's good in the USA, in the 1500-2500 range?",{"permalink":603,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":604,"user_opinion_count":131},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1ozozmd/the_2025_black_friday_cyber_monday_deals_thread/","The 2025 Black Friday & Cyber Monday Deals Thread",{"permalink":606,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":607,"user_opinion_count":5},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1pnhvm1/rocket_overkill_for_a_latte_drinker_budget_around/","Rocket - overkill for a latte drinker? Budget around [$2k] so but ideally under $1k",{"permalink":609,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":610,"user_opinion_count":611},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1lwfcnf/which_espresso_machine_represents_the_point_of/","Which espresso machine represents the point of diminishing return for you?",34,{"permalink":613,"subreddit":614,"subm_title":615,"user_opinion_count":611},"https://www.reddit.com/r/pourover/comments/1nu1ky7/for_pour_over_enthusiasts_who_have_espresso/","pourover","For pour over enthusiasts who have espresso machine",{"permalink":617,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":618,"user_opinion_count":611},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1rupmdt/the_launch_time_of_an_espresso_machine_is/","The launch time of an espresso machine is criminally underrated.",{"permalink":620,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":621,"user_opinion_count":611},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1nskzr5/talk_me_out_of_upgrading/","Talk me out of upgrading…",{"permalink":623,"subreddit":526,"subm_title":624,"user_opinion_count":96},"https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/comments/1so363v/espresso_machine_for_home/","Espresso machine for home",{"permalink":626,"subreddit":627,"subm_title":628,"user_opinion_count":96},"https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualIreland/comments/1p50hed/talk_to_me_about_coffee_machines/","CasualIreland","Talk to me about coffee machines",{"permalink":630,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":631,"user_opinion_count":96},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1phrx80/so_whats_the_endgame_machine_for_someone_spoiled/","So, what's the endgame machine for someone spoiled by the Bambino's fast start-up time? 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[$800 Budget]",{"permalink":640,"subreddit":641,"subm_title":642,"user_opinion_count":162},"https://www.reddit.com/r/CostcoCanada/comments/1oupqih/costco_doesnt_have_a_decent_espresso_machine/","CostcoCanada","Costco doesn't have a decent espresso machine",{"permalink":644,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":645,"user_opinion_count":167},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1s0njku/top_espresso_machines_on_reddit_by_positive/","Top espresso machines on Reddit by positive & negative comments - for tinkering vs beginners vs speed etc. Based on 725 posts in the past year (Mar 2026)",{"permalink":647,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":648,"user_opinion_count":167},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1ounoz8/is_the_la_marzocco_really_worth_it_no_budget/","Is the La marzocco really worth it? [no budget]",{"permalink":650,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":651,"user_opinion_count":167},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1m775jj/what_are_you_paying_for_with_a_more_expensive/","What are you paying for with a more expensive machine? [$2500]",{"permalink":653,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":654,"user_opinion_count":167},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1r06eab/tried_to_build_the_ultimate_midbudget_setup_what/","Tried to build the ultimate mid-budget setup... What would you change?",{"permalink":656,"subreddit":526,"subm_title":657,"user_opinion_count":121},"https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/comments/1r06dt2/whats_your_personal_bifl_espresso_machine/","Whats your personal BIFL Espresso Machine?",{"permalink":659,"subreddit":597,"subm_title":660,"user_opinion_count":121},"https://www.reddit.com/r/superautomatic/comments/1lwd9p7/one_touch_fully_automatic_bean_to_cup_machine_1k/","One touch fully automatic bean to cup machine $1k budget for the busy mom who doesn’t have time for complicated",{"permalink":662,"subreddit":663,"subm_title":664,"user_opinion_count":121},"https://www.reddit.com/r/JamesHoffmann/comments/1r042x5/espresso_lovers_whats_the_best_espresso_coffee/","JamesHoffmann","Espresso lovers, whats the best espresso coffee maker/machine?",{"permalink":666,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":667,"user_opinion_count":121},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1r3pr5v/ascaso_steel_duo_plus_vs_lelit_mara_x_v2_3000/","Ascaso Steel duo plus vs Lelit Mara X V2 [3000$]",{"permalink":669,"subreddit":670,"subm_title":671,"user_opinion_count":672},"https://www.reddit.com/r/AskUK/comments/1oes1yc/coffee_lovers_what_is_the_best_simple_bean_to_cup/","AskUK","Coffee lovers - what is the best simple bean to cup coffee machine?",29,{"permalink":674,"subreddit":663,"subm_title":675,"user_opinion_count":672},"https://www.reddit.com/r/JamesHoffmann/comments/1sqzhb6/whats_the_best_espresso_machine_for_home_use/","What's the Best Espresso Machine for Home Use Widely Loved by Aficionados?",{"permalink":677,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":678,"user_opinion_count":679},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1ou3qhj/is_upgrading_an_espresso_machine_actually_worth/","Is upgrading an espresso machine actually worth the money?",28,{"permalink":681,"subreddit":682,"subm_title":683,"user_opinion_count":26},"https://www.reddit.com/r/nespresso/comments/1q2b8ie/nespresso_lovers_that_made_the_switch_to_a_real/","nespresso","Nespresso lovers that made the switch to a real espresso machine. Which one did you get? How much did it cost? Any regrets?",{"permalink":685,"subreddit":597,"subm_title":686,"user_opinion_count":26},"https://www.reddit.com/r/superautomatic/comments/1paxg6p/what_made_you_buy_a_superautomatic/","What made you buy a superautomatic ?",{"permalink":688,"subreddit":517,"subm_title":689,"user_opinion_count":26},"https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1lzyg1i/reasons_not_to_get_the_la_marzocco_micra_other/","Reasons NOT to get the La Marzocco Micra? Other machines to consider? 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fast heat-up time","likes",[1513,1515,1518],[1514],"the bambino is only 3 seconds heat up.",[1516,1517],"The Bambino is almost instant, and you may find its all you need.","About 5 seconds. It really is almost instant.",[1519],"Leave machine off 99% of the day. Turn on for my one cup. Wait 10 seconds, brew, turn off.",118,{"title":1522,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1523,"likes_count":1531,"dislikes_count":86},"Excellent value for money",[1524,1527,1529],[1525,1526],"Basically the cheapest UK set-up that is capable of doing it alright.","I have no complaints.",[1528],"For the price it can’t be beat.",[1530],"a bambino or plus will accomplish the same and save ton of money",135,{"title":1533,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1535,"likes_count":768,"dislikes_count":182},"Inconsistent extraction and poor taste with light roasts","dislikes",[1536,1540,1544],[1537,1538,1539],"its temperature inconsistency","it has terrible consistency and temperature stability","few times great shots but almost no replicable",[1541,1542,1543],"I can’t for the life of me pull a good shot.","it’s still always too sour or bitter.","fuck it’s frustrating",[1545],"my shots are TERRIBLE. No 2 shots are the same and it is driving me nuts!",{"title":1547,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1548,"likes_count":776,"dislikes_count":71},"Frequent and unskippable cleaning cycles",[1549,1551,1553],[1550],"the machine counts brews and often would refuse to work without being cleaned in the middle of making my morning latte.",[1552],"You will wake up one morning and the machine will be locked out of use without performing a 10-15 minute cleaning cycle, with absolutely zero way to bypass. No warning, nothing.",[1554,1555,1556,1557],"I want to move on from my Bambino Plus simply because of the stupid cleaning cycle counter that won’t let you pull another damn shot or steam until you run the cycle.","It’s my biggest gripe with it.","If it starts blinking for a cleaning in the middle of making my morning coffee I see red.","Mine does not do that.",{"model_id":219,"series_id":234,"slug":1559,"name":1560,"brand_name":816,"img_url":1561,"positive":819,"neutral":71,"negative":11,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":11,"first_listing":1562,"top_summary_points":1566,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":202},"series/cafelat-robot-series","Robot Series","https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-6h7ychjk4/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/8610/90098/cafelat-robot-manual-espresso-machine-WBG-retro-green-front__44934.1605900669.jpg?c=1&imbypass=on",{"url":1563,"price":1564,"img_url":1561,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":1501,"seller_site_name":1565,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/cafelat/robot-barista-green-cafel-pp",584,"Prima Coffee Equipment",[1567,1580,1587,1596],{"title":1568,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1569,"likes_count":111,"dislikes_count":776},"Reliable and low maintenance",[1570,1572,1576],[1571],"and perhaps your grandson might even inherit the Robot.",[1573,1574,1575],"No pre-heating for 20 to 30 minutes, no boiler scale/corrosion worries, no electrical faults, no leaks, etc.","The only failure point on it is a silicone piston gasket, which are cheap and plentifully available.","Out of ignorance, I ignored it, never lubed the gasket, and it lasted for 4 and 1/2 years. So it's like there's almost no maintenance whatsoever in upkeeping a Robot.",[1577,1578,1579],"truly BIFL","no parts to fail","no electrical parts to fail",{"title":1581,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1582,"likes_count":611,"dislikes_count":776},"Outstanding durability and build quality",[1583,1584,1585],[1571],[1577,1578,1579],[1586],"it will never break",{"title":1588,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1589,"likes_count":81,"dislikes_count":76},"Manual workflow requires effort, especially for multiple shots",[1590,1592,1594],[1591],"has absolutely zero desire to fiddle around with grind sizes and pressure profiles.",[1593],"having to manually boil your brew water in a kettle.",[1595],"slightly more involed vorkflow (no boiler no pump, you have to heat the water separately and pour it)",{"title":1597,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1598,"likes_count":86,"dislikes_count":76},"No integrated milk steaming or frothing",[1599,1601,1603],[1600],"(I firmly refuse to do any milk drinks)",[1602],"doesn’t steam milk.",[1604],"I’m getting a Morning Dream to keep an electric steam wand available, and since that also has auto steaming it will keep the convenience I had with the bambino.",{"model_id":237,"series_id":219,"slug":1606,"name":401,"brand_name":404,"img_url":403,"positive":1607,"neutral":672,"negative":182,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":202,"first_listing":1608,"top_summary_points":1611,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":81},"model/gaggia-classic-pro-e24",252,{"url":1609,"price":1610,"img_url":403,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":11,"seller_site_name":1507,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RQ3NL76?tag=redditrecs-g-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1",454.52,[1612,1621,1631,1640],{"title":1522,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1613,"likes_count":152,"dislikes_count":776},[1614,1616,1618],[1615],"capable of producing espresso the quality of machines 10x its price.",[1617],"spending even ten times more on “ better” machine won’t make you a better cup of coffee.",[1619,1620],"Gaggia classic E24 (5-600€)","Boom, great machine for half your price",{"title":1622,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1623,"likes_count":704,"dislikes_count":81},"Easy to repair and find spare parts",[1624,1627,1629],[1625,1626],"Mine is now the \"espresso machine of Theseus\" as basically every major part other than the shell has been replaced - sometimes multiple times.","One of the major factors in BIFL isn't how long it'll last, but whether you can you get parts for it when it breaks.",[1628],"You can still buy like every single replacement part (except for the neon lights in the buttons).",[1630],"Gaggia has been around for years and the machine is repairable",{"title":1632,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1633,"likes_count":81,"dislikes_count":131},"Limited and imprecise temperature control",[1634,1636,1638],[1635],"I hate the tempsurfing.",[1637],"Temp surfing is a massive pain in the arse.",[1639],"Temperature surfing was way more of a nightmare with the Aluminium Boiler with Gaggia",{"title":1641,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1642,"likes_count":202,"dislikes_count":106},"Underpowered and wet steam wand",[1643,1645,1648],[1644],"Steam wand, even with the shades of coffee mod, leaks like a MF.",[1646,1647],"Steaming in GCP was completely trash.","Terrible experience.",[1649,1650,1651],"The steam kinda sucks","is pretty wet and spurty","then runs out pretty quick",{"model_id":219,"series_id":240,"slug":1653,"name":344,"brand_name":348,"img_url":347,"positive":1654,"neutral":76,"negative":187,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":81,"first_listing":1655,"top_summary_points":1659,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":81},"series/flair-espresso-flair-58-series",117,{"url":1656,"price":1657,"img_url":347,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":1658,"seller_site_name":348,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://flairespresso.com/product/flair-58/",464,9336,[1660,1672,1683,1693],{"title":1661,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1662,"likes_count":167,"dislikes_count":776},"Long-term durability and low maintenance",[1663,1667,1670],[1664,1665,1666],"Super low maintenance!","The maintenance I do is mainly cleaning and lubrication. Once every 1-2 months, cleaning nung brew chamber mismo. As in just unscrew, run under the sink and scrub with dish soap. And then lubrication ng o-ring ng plunger after cleaning (I just use a drop of cooking oil, may specialized lubricants naman na food safe pero okay na ako with oil). May parts din to lubricate like yung lever mismo, but I had to do it like once in the 4+ years I've owned the Flair 58.","Only have to replace the o-rings every few years.",[1668,1669],"The o-rings last a decade of daily use","are fairly standard so you can replace as needed.",[1671],"Otherwise, there is nothing that can fail.",{"title":1673,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1674,"likes_count":167,"dislikes_count":11},"Great value for money compared to premium brands",[1675,1677,1679],[1676],"once you develop the skills, you can do things that you'd have to buy a 2,000-3,000 USD machine to get",[1678],"can beat pump machines that are 5 times the price.",[1680,1681,1682],"If you really want good espresso","the flair 58 can go toe to toe with multi-thousand dollar machines","my first choice for the best possible espresso i can make",{"title":1684,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1685,"likes_count":192,"dislikes_count":1692},"Highly manual and time-consuming workflow for daily use",[1686,1688,1690],[1687],"had the worst (most manual) workflow",[1689],"Is the effort and expense worth it for you? Is the process something that you’re going to enjoy doing everyday? (Not just performing it, you actually have to enjoy the process for it to be worth it).",[1691],"nur morgends wenn es schnell gehen muß benutze ich meine bialetti Kannen oder den 9barista.",51,{"title":1694,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1695,"likes_count":776,"dislikes_count":187},"Long and difficult adjustment period",[1696,1698,1701],[1697],"The learning curve on how to get there was about 6 months",[1699,1700],"it’s a more involved process","it’s not quick and simple like the bambino",[1702],"Will take a few tries or maybe days to get a hang of it",{"model_id":243,"series_id":219,"slug":1704,"name":485,"brand_name":488,"img_url":487,"positive":1705,"neutral":814,"negative":192,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":86,"first_listing":1706,"top_summary_points":1711,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":81},"model/breville-bianca",120,{"url":1707,"price":1708,"img_url":487,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":1709,"seller_site_name":1710,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"http://clivecoffee.com/products/lelit-bianca-dual-boiler-espresso-machine",2999.95,94,"Clive Coffee",[1712,1726,1735,1748],{"title":1713,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1714,"likes_count":96,"dislikes_count":81},"Precise and intuitive flow control for diverse espresso profiles",[1715,1720,1724],[1716,1717,1718,1719],"It has flow control paddle","If you want to use flow control and to play around with different shot profiles, I highly recommend the Bianca.","You can easily do turbo shots, soup, declining lever style shots, blooming, and more.","using the paddle feels very natural/fun.",[1721,1722,1723],"I use it for every shot.","Manually pre infusion, ramp pressure, and dial it right back at the end which makes for added sweetness in the coffee.","It's also super useful when dialing in beans and you don't have quite the right grind setting yet ..you can pull back the pressure and avoid coffee sputtering if the grind is too coarse.",[1725],"I use a coarse grind and do a turbo bloom. Open the paddle all the way and as soon as you see the basket saturated cut the flow for 5 seconds and then re-open the flow only around halfway and get to your yield in around 15-20 seconds. Adjust to taste but often it's also at long ratios of 1-2.5+",{"title":1727,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1728,"likes_count":157,"dislikes_count":11},"Cost-effective compared to competitors",[1729,1731,1733],[1730],"costs half of it",[1732],"Punches way above its price.",[1734],"And save 1K to 2K.",{"title":1736,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1737,"likes_count":11,"dislikes_count":192},"Perceived lower build quality and finish compared to competitors",[1738,1744,1746],[1739,1740,1741,1742,1743],"the overall fit and finish for the Lelit was lacking in my opinion. It felt janky, rough around the edges, thinner and lacked the quality I expected for the price point.","The Lelit panels are thinner, the cuts and finishes around the edges are sharper/rougher and not folded/smoothed edges like on profitec/ecm panels.","The machining and tolerances of the lelit are not as well made as on profitec/ECM.","The drip trays are noticeably apparent in terms of quality. Lelit has a looser drip tray and espresso tray stand that does not look or feel as well made as the profitec/ecm tray. Again, the fit and finish for the tray is better as well and does not rattle/shake as much when in place.","Thinner panels, less material/metal used, poorer machining and finishes with worse tolerances and overall build quality",[1745],"I found the Bianca to seem flimsy",[1747],"It seemed flimsy.",{"title":1749,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1750,"likes_count":776,"dislikes_count":768},"Not ideal for many consecutive milk drinks due to temperature stability",[1751,1753,1756],[1752],"it is not great to make maybe more than 2-3 back to back lattes.",[1754,1755],"The Bianca isn’t well suited to do back-to-back drink duty.","After 5 milk drinks in a row, it will eventually degrade in temp stability.",[1757],"The problem with high end E61 dual boilers is that they're really not designed for more than 6 coffees back to back before needing a break.",{"model_id":249,"series_id":219,"slug":1759,"name":1760,"brand_name":1183,"img_url":1761,"positive":1762,"neutral":187,"negative":81,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":768,"first_listing":1763,"top_summary_points":1768,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":-1},"model/profitec-move","MOVE","https://www.wholelattelove.com/cdn/shop/files/profitec_move_black_with_american_walnut_right_facing.jpg?v=1739565691&width=1946",80,{"url":1764,"price":1765,"img_url":1761,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":1766,"seller_site_name":1767,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://www.wholelattelove.com/products/profitec-move-espresso-machine",2249,97,"Whole Latte Love",[1769,1779,1790],{"title":1770,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1771,"likes_count":611,"dislikes_count":11},"Durable and reliable build quality",[1772,1774,1776],[1773],"Profitec, Gaggia, Rancilio are all well made tanks",[1775],"I’m a relatively early adopter and have had zero issues since day one",[1777,1778],"you can get it repaired for a very long time in the future","it's a solid setup that will last a long time",{"title":1780,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1781,"likes_count":212,"dislikes_count":202},"Dual boiler system for simultaneous brewing and steaming",[1782,1786,1788],[1783,1784,1785],"the dual boiler is definitely a good upgrade.","I really appreciated it over the holidays with family visiting and making many back to back milk drinks each morning.","The dual boiler definitely has been a massive improvement and it no longer takes forever to make back to back milk drinks.",[1787],"love the ability to steam while brewing",[1789],"I steam and brew with my Move multiple times a day with no issue.",{"title":1791,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1792,"likes_count":776,"dislikes_count":202},"Prone to power switch failure",[1793,1797],[1794,1795,1796],"Maybe prematurely buy a new power button while you can.","It's hard to pinpoint how prevalent it is. But it is discussed enough on reddit and fb for it to clearly be an issue.","It's not an expensive part and could save you some downtime if/when it breaks.",[1798],"our power switch died, likely because one of power cables because loose in shipping and I didn't notice it.",{"model_id":219,"series_id":246,"slug":1800,"name":1801,"brand_name":754,"img_url":1802,"positive":1803,"neutral":71,"negative":86,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":187,"first_listing":1804,"top_summary_points":1807,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":202},"series/delonghi-stilosa-series","Stilosa Series","https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41BVDBHS-JL._SL500_.jpg",82,{"url":1805,"price":1806,"img_url":1802,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":11,"seller_site_name":1507,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C96BG9H?tag=redditrecs-g-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1",149.95,[1808,1818,1829,1838],{"title":1522,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1809,"likes_count":564,"dislikes_count":11},[1810,1812,1815],[1811],"pull almost as good shots as 4k€ setup.",[1813,1814],"delonghi single stainless boiler: $100 new, $10+ used","this is as cheap as itll actually be. otherwise, you'll keep upgrading to find things that work this well. easily spending thousands. wasting money trying to make cheaper things work.",[1816,1817],"its the best budget option out there.","I have it, and can only recommend it.",{"title":1819,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1820,"likes_count":41,"dislikes_count":86},"Easy to use, suitable for beginners",[1821,1824,1826],[1822,1823],"Its so stupid easy with the pressurized portafilter.","it's easy",[1825],"if you're just looking for something simple we love it.",[1827,1828],"I would go with an entry level machine like the DeLonghi ECP series or the Stilosa.","Perfect for your use case.",{"title":1830,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1831,"likes_count":11,"dislikes_count":824},"Flimsy plastic construction",[1832,1834,1836],[1833],"The machine is very light and flimsy so you need to kind of hold it down to lock the portafilter in place",[1835],"better tamper than plastic one for consistency",[1837],"Stilosa is heavy on the plastic",{"title":1839,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1840,"likes_count":197,"dislikes_count":41},"Requires additional purchases and modifications for optimal espresso quality",[1841,1843,1845],[1842],"will absolutely require a better basket",[1844],"as long as you buy an ims non pressurized basket",[1846],"willingness to hack to really unlock",{"model_id":252,"series_id":219,"slug":1848,"name":431,"brand_name":434,"img_url":433,"positive":1849,"neutral":71,"negative":81,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":824,"first_listing":1850,"top_summary_points":1853,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":11},"model/ecm-synchronika-ii",72,{"url":1851,"price":1852,"img_url":433,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":1709,"seller_site_name":1710,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"http://clivecoffee.com/products/ecm-synchronika-ii-espresso-machine",3599,[1854,1866,1876,1885],{"title":1855,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1856,"likes_count":96,"dislikes_count":202},"Exceptional long-term durability and build quality",[1857,1859,1861],[1858],"reliability",[1860],"It makes me amazed that other brands are selling in the same price bracket or higher with much lower fit and finish. Love the Synch!",[1862,1863,1864,1865],"I have an ecm synchronika","I've had mine atleast 7 years","I haven't had it professionally serviced but I do service it myself which isn't too difficult","plan to have this unit my entire life",{"title":1867,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1868,"likes_count":16,"dislikes_count":776},"Reliable, app-free operation with built-in scheduling",[1869,1872,1873],[1870,1871],"Although the ECM machine has a nice controller/CPU that permits user control of various settings such as brew boiler temp, scheduling, pre-infusion times, etc., there’s no outside communication or control using wifi or connection to remote servers, no updating of apps, and no hijacking or disruption to operation of my machine because of app issues.","I am loving the simplicity of operating the ECM machine, and the fact it can’t be hijacked or screwed up by an app. I can just focus on brewing. That’s a major plus.",[1858],[1874,1875],"The scheduling is a built in feature and when I wake up the portafilter is hot.","My puck prep takes longer than reasonable, portafilter cools down somewhat but generally it is still too hot to touch.",{"title":1877,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1878,"likes_count":11,"dislikes_count":187},"Heavy and bulky",[1879,1881,1883],[1880],"Its heavy af and a pain to move out every time you need to fill it wich will be once a week to every few days at the rate you are going to use it.",[1882],"66 lbs and 19.3\" deep, so make sure it works with your counter space.",[1884],"if I were to change anything on my setup, it would actually be the ECM, for something more compact, that thing is huge!",{"title":1886,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1887,"likes_count":81,"dislikes_count":768},"Higher price point compared to alternatives",[1888,1891,1893],[1889,1890],"ecm synch 2 which was new, $4500","sale price difference",[1892],"I would only recommend it to someone who would be insensitive to the cost.",[1894],"flow control costs extra",{"model_id":255,"series_id":219,"slug":1896,"name":1897,"brand_name":754,"img_url":1898,"positive":523,"neutral":172,"negative":768,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":172,"first_listing":1899,"top_summary_points":1902,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":-1},"model/delonghi-eletta-explore","Eletta Explore","https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41m+v9thNdL._SL500_.jpg",{"url":1900,"price":1901,"img_url":1898,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":11,"seller_site_name":1507,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FJDMLWT7?tag=redditrecs-g-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1",1399.99,[1903,1915,1925,1934],{"title":1904,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1905,"likes_count":5,"dislikes_count":11},"Exceptional convenience and ease of use",[1906,1908,1911],[1907],"to clean the milk unit, I just pull the milk frother from the machine, pop off the top, wash out the container, pull off three knobs/ spouts and flush under the faucet. ~20 seconds max.",[1909,1910],"It’s greatness like you said touch a button and it poops out a drink.","Been really impressed.",[1912,1913,1914],"no fuss","I don't really feel like I've compromised","All in all, a 9/10 experience for people like us who can’t be bothered spending 10 minutes to get a 10/10 coffee. 9/10 in two minutes does the job and then some",{"title":1916,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1917,"likes_count":212,"dislikes_count":11},"Excellent cold brew and cold drink options",[1918,1920,1923],[1919],"EE has the cold brew",[1921,1922],"I just got it and must say the cold foam and cold brew are what makes it for me.","Other than the Jura at twice the price, it is the best out there for that.",[1924],"Tried the cold brew, in summer, loved it.",{"title":1926,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1927,"likes_count":776,"dislikes_count":202},"Frequent water refill prompts",[1928,1932],[1929,1930,1931],"The water thing is true!","It's bizzare as I barely empty the drip tray. I've done it once in several weeks.","But it asks for water every other day. I'm having like 2-3 drinks a day, but milk based ones.",[1933],"It seems to ask for more water than it ever spits out.",{"title":1935,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1936,"likes_count":776,"dislikes_count":202},"Unreliable wi-fi and app connectivity",[1937,1939],[1938],"WiFi functionality (which hasn’t worked at all since I’ve gotten the machine 🙄)",[1940,1941],"Love mine except for the app.","I can't rate it because I, like most other people, can't get it to connect to the machine.",{"model_id":258,"series_id":219,"slug":1943,"name":1944,"brand_name":291,"img_url":1945,"positive":1946,"neutral":197,"negative":66,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":192,"first_listing":1947,"top_summary_points":1948,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":81},"model/breville-bambino","Bambino","https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31v6PgzBduL._SL500_.jpg",126,{"url":1504,"price":1505,"img_url":1945,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":11,"seller_site_name":1507,"is_prime_day_deal":219},[1949,1956,1965,1975],{"title":1522,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1950,"likes_count":1247,"dislikes_count":11},[1951,1953,1955],[1952],"the base model does 99% the same for so much less money.",[1954],"I got it for $239 I think and it came with a milk pitcher, and 3 different baskets, and a tamper.",[1525,1526],{"title":1957,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1958,"likes_count":91,"dislikes_count":776},"Rapid 3-second heat-up time",[1959,1962,1963],[1960,1961],"And the best thing imo is the super quick heat up time for the bambino.","Bambino in 3 secs is ready to go.",[1514],[1964],"the super fast heat up time makes a big difference",{"title":1966,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1967,"likes_count":824,"dislikes_count":96},"Steep learning curve for beginners to achieve consistent results",[1968,1969,1973],[1537,1538,1539],[1970,1971,1972],"Bambino always leaves the outcome to be luck based.","Do everything right and it tunrs out to be a gutter shot because the machine did something not reproducible.","The Bambino can make great Espresso, its just luck if it happens and most of the time you don't have luck with it.",[1974],"Also you will rip your hair out a little at the beginning but you will figure it out!!!",{"title":1976,"category":1534,"top_quotes":1977,"likes_count":187,"dislikes_count":136},"Inconsistent temperature stability for espresso brewing",[1978,1979,1980],[1537,1538,1539],[1970,1971,1972],[1981,1982],"dramatically reduced the number of bitter or sour shots I was getting.","I’m fairly certain it comes down to the E61’s temperature stability, especially how consistently hot the group head stays and how well it keeps the portafilter at temperature.",{"model_id":1984,"series_id":219,"slug":1985,"name":1986,"brand_name":748,"img_url":1987,"positive":1988,"neutral":172,"negative":31,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":71,"first_listing":1989,"top_summary_points":1992,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":81},32283,"model/rancilio-silvia-pro-x","Silvia Pro X","https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31K+Ue8ss3L._SL500_.jpg",113,{"url":1990,"price":1991,"img_url":1987,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":11,"seller_site_name":1507,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09MV4KTXH?tag=redditrecs-g-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1",2195,[1993,2003,2016,2030],{"title":1994,"category":1511,"top_quotes":1995,"likes_count":2002,"dislikes_count":81},"Exceptional durability and robust construction",[1996,1998,2000],[1997],"built like a brick shithouse.",[1999],"i took my boiler apart after 13 years… yuck, but it still ran 12 years after that",[2001],"I’ve had V1 for more than 20 years and I’ve never had a problem with it. Only normal-temporal-maintainance",93,{"title":2004,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2005,"likes_count":720,"dislikes_count":824},"Excellent performance and quality for espresso",[2006,2010,2012],[2007,2008,2009],"Excellent temperature and pressure control.","Pro X has a saturated group head for better thermal stability and thermal mass","and dual PIDs.",[2011],"If you’re doing several shots in a row and steaming milk, two things matter most: Steam power & recovery, and Thermal stability under load. The Silvia Pro X is better at both",[2013,2014,2015],"every morning, the ritual of the measure, the grind, the WDT , the tamp, and narrowly watching the brew come out- that’s heaven in a Cup..","then the taste is next level. Mind blowing in a good way!","now I am waiting for the day and night to finish to get another coffee in the morning!",{"title":2017,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2018,"likes_count":187,"dislikes_count":157},"Steep learning curve for consistent espresso shots",[2019,2023,2027],[2020,2021,2022],"I struggled for about 3 years with grinds, roasts, and what nots, before succumbing and now I am waiting for the day and night to finish to get another coffee in the morning!","The 10k machine will bang out dark roasts, with serviceable decoction for milk and sugar, occasionally get a good espresso ( especially if you have a good specialty bean).","If you have a pressurised portafilter it will give a sort of crema.",[2024,2025,2026],"I have a Silvia and it's a temperamental piece of sh*t.","Makes great coffee when everything is going well but it's not constant and you'll waste alot of product constantly trying to dial it in","At times I feel like picking the Silvia up and throwing it out the window",[2028,2029],"I have tweaked my setup so many different ways over those years before coming up with a satisfactory setup, including opening it up and dialing in the pump pressure.","within a few days of practice I got espresso shots that blew away anything I ever managed to achieve with my Silvia.",{"title":2031,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2032,"likes_count":81,"dislikes_count":172},"Slow overall heat-up time",[2033,2035,2039],[2034],"On my old Silvia it took me from brew start 0:30 brew (two cups), till 1:48 heat up for steam, till 2:30 steam, till 2:45 swirl and pour.",[2036,2037,2038],"I get pretty annoyed waiting for my single boiler to heat to steam temperature to be honest.","About 5 minutes, downside of bigger boiler I guess?","It can be a bit of a drag when I’m working and want to make milk drinks after waiting for it to heat up for espresso",[2040,2041],"clunky power on times","25 minutes for me. I flip the brew boiler on for 15 minutes, then the steam boiler for 10. 25 total.",{"model_id":2043,"series_id":219,"slug":2044,"name":2045,"brand_name":291,"img_url":2046,"positive":1654,"neutral":192,"negative":157,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":814,"first_listing":2047,"top_summary_points":2050,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":202},32236,"model/breville-the-dual-boiler","the Dual Boiler™","https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41hsxbXWOWL._SL500_.jpg",{"url":2048,"price":2049,"img_url":2046,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":11,"seller_site_name":1507,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I6JGGP0?tag=redditrecs-g-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1",1599.95,[2051,2061,2072,2081],{"title":2052,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2053,"likes_count":136,"dislikes_count":11},"Outstanding value for money, especially in australia",[2054,2057,2059],[2055,2056],"can’t beat that for value.","Next level up is more than double the price for not much more.",[2058],"Having changed the hot water valve as flow control valve it was worth what i paid for it for sure.",[2060],"The BDB is such an amazing deal in Australia",{"title":2062,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2063,"likes_count":66,"dislikes_count":11},"Maintains optimal and consistent brewing temperature",[2064,2067,2070],[2065,2066],"The temperature is much much more stable with triple pid","having a heated group & portafilter is a big difference.",[2068,2069],"It's extremely temperature stable.","(So good espresso)",[2071],"has better temperature stability than a lot of machines that are much more expensive",{"title":2073,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2074,"likes_count":776,"dislikes_count":192},"Bulky and unattractive design",[2075,2077,2079],[2076],"Probably doesn't pass the \"not too big\" criteria",[2078],"tempted to “downgrade” to a rocket appartamento because of the looks and style.",[2080],"but still daydream about getting something as beautiful to look at like a LaMarzocco or even a Lelit",{"title":2082,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2083,"likes_count":824,"dislikes_count":36},"Difficult and costly repairs",[2084,2087,2089],[2085,2086],"my 2nd breville dual boiler in 5 years just died.","there won’t be a 3rd….",[2088],"that piece of shit is not repairable",[2090],"in fact I had four of them because that piece of shit is not repairable and breville will just send you a new one.",{"model_id":2092,"series_id":219,"slug":2093,"name":2094,"brand_name":1183,"img_url":2095,"positive":1531,"neutral":31,"negative":41,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":141,"first_listing":2096,"top_summary_points":2099,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":81},32973,"model/profitec-go","GO","https://clivecoffee.com/cdn/shop/files/Profitec-Go-Black-Front-Espresso-Machine-KO-by-Clive-Coffee.jpg?v=1764731714&width=640",{"url":2097,"price":2098,"img_url":2095,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":1709,"seller_site_name":1710,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"http://clivecoffee.com/products/profitec-go-espresso-machine",1199,[2100,2109,2118,2130],{"title":2101,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2102,"likes_count":182,"dislikes_count":11},"Exceptional build quality and durability",[2103,2105,2106],[2104],"the profitec go has all metal pipes inside plus insulation for the brass boiler",[1773],[2107,2108],"Oh, and the go is built really well.","I could see it lasting a lifetime.",{"title":2110,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2111,"likes_count":56,"dislikes_count":86},"Consistent, high-quality espresso shots with stable temperature",[2112,2114,2116],[2113],"In taste no difference( I have a profitec go and in blind test with LM, three people couldn't understand any difference, maybe James hoffman can)",[2115],"Shots are extremely consistent",[2117],"Built in PID",{"title":2119,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2120,"likes_count":81,"dislikes_count":5},"Inefficient workflow for multiple milk drinks",[2121,2124,2126],[2122,2123],"Do not buy the Profitec Go if you aspire to be a host.","you have no shot at making 10+ drinks in a reasonable amount of time with an efficient workflow on any non dual boiler machine.",[2125],"Terrible workflow on the Profitec Go if you have two people at home, who both prefer milky drinks (with soy and natural milk).",[2127,2128,2129],"I ended up returning it because I realized that I was tired of the single boiler juggle. All the purging, and waiting etc. was getting old.","This is especially annoying with multiple users who leave it in steam mode, and I had to purge and cool it down before making a shot.","If you only make espresso the Go is great, but I mostly make milk drinks.",{"title":2131,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2132,"likes_count":81,"dislikes_count":141},"High price point for the features offered",[2133,2135,2138],[2134],"the pressure/flow profiling plus temp control, brew by weight, etc etc far outdoes the Profitec for about the same price.",[2136,2137],"Does the other make twice as good coffee? I doubt it.","But you have to decide if it is worth twice the price. I don't think so",[2139],"Profitec Go would have been my top choice, but it costs exactly twice as much and although I could afford it, couldn't justify the price difference, and no regrets.",{"model_id":2141,"series_id":219,"slug":2142,"name":2143,"brand_name":291,"img_url":2144,"positive":2145,"neutral":752,"negative":131,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":76,"first_listing":2146,"top_summary_points":2149,"summary_points_more_likes":202,"summary_points_more_dislikes":202},32487,"model/breville-barista-express-impress","Barista Express Impress","https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41RsdiklN+L._SL500_.jpg",173,{"url":2147,"price":2148,"img_url":2144,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":11,"seller_site_name":1507,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BBYNPV33?tag=redditrecs-g-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1",649.95,[2150,2162,2174,2187],{"title":2151,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2152,"likes_count":720,"dislikes_count":11},"Excellent value and significant long-term cost savings",[2153,2157,2159],[2154,2155,2156],"I consider them a great investment.","I bought my first Barista Express for $500 new, prices went up over the years and I sold it 6 years later for $500.","Literally had a free espresso machine for 6 years.",[2158],"I paid about .33-.99 for coffee per day and it covered its cost in the first year.",[2160,2161],"Sage Barista Express is now €499 down from normal €699.","Also check the possibility of getting a 15% discount code from Sage if you contact a certain UK coffee blogger on YouTube....I did and it worked perfectly",{"title":2163,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2164,"likes_count":2173,"dislikes_count":71},"Exceptional durability and long-term reliability",[2165,2168,2171],[2166,2167],"I got a breville barista express in 2016 and it still runs today.","works as good as ever.",[2169,2170],"I have mine now 5 years or so. I’ve looked after it and never ever had an issue.","I’ve had mine 5 years or so and never had an issue.",[2172],"has been going strong for 12 years now",108,{"title":2175,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2176,"likes_count":192,"dislikes_count":2186},"Inconsistent grind and difficulty dialing in",[2177,2181,2184],[2178,2179,2180],"I found some beans that the integrated grinder just couldn't do","I tried everything and the shot either pissed through in 10 seconds or the puck clogged up.","Drove me crazy.",[2182,2183],"I wouldn't wish its grinder on anyone.","When I finally gave up on its grinder and got a better one, it was like getting a whole new machine.",[2185],"Consistency between shots",81,{"title":2188,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2189,"likes_count":776,"dislikes_count":16},"Component failures (leaks, pump issues)",[2190,2195,2199],[2191,2192,2193,2194],"Every time we plugged it in it would short circuit and we’d have to reset the kitchen switch in our electrical panel.","Breville said I could mail it back for $$$$ to get serviced.","the closest repair person I could find was 2 hours away from us.","Turns out, the motor to my Breville was broken and was around an $800 repair.",[2196,2197,2198],"my particular machine blows through gaskets regularly, and only at the low or mid range of pressure, which is unbelievably frustrating.","Given the grinds that made their way into my coffee this morning from another gasket issue","It goes so frequently now, even after replacing, I do suspect there is an underlying flaw with the machine - which is 💯 part of the reason I want to upgrade - loss of confidence etc",[2200],"my barista express (all on one combo) just died - water leaking into the electronics from the pump or something.",{"model_id":2202,"series_id":219,"slug":2203,"name":2204,"brand_name":848,"img_url":2205,"positive":2206,"neutral":31,"negative":96,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":16,"first_listing":2207,"top_summary_points":2212,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":81},32648,"model/la-marzocco-linea-micra","Linea Micra","https://home.lamarzoccousa.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Micra-White-Front.png",154,{"url":2208,"price":2209,"img_url":2205,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":2210,"seller_site_name":2211,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://home.lamarzoccousa.com/product/linea-micra/",4500,258,"La Marzocco Home",[2213,2221,2230,2241],{"title":1510,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2214,"likes_count":162,"dislikes_count":11},[2215,2217,2219],[2216],"It is ready to brew in 5 minutes and like 7-8 to steam.",[2218],"Its saturated grouphead heats up in 5 minutes.",[2220],"incredible heat-up time",{"title":2222,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2223,"likes_count":833,"dislikes_count":86},"Robust build quality and durability",[2224,2226,2228],[2225],"La Marzoccos last literally generations. They are not throw-away appliances.",[2227],"Build like a tank",[2229],"They're built like a tank",{"title":2231,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2232,"likes_count":81,"dislikes_count":167},"High premium price point",[2233,2237,2239],[2234,2235,2236],"Most of what you’re paying for is brand name.","It’s not a bad machine but it is a name brand premium","spend extra money on a brand name",[2238],"the Micra is basically just introducing a worse Mini at the old Mini price point so they could jack up the price of the latter.",[2240],"boy howdy is six thousand American dollars a lot to spend on a coffee machine",{"title":2242,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2243,"likes_count":187,"dislikes_count":212},"Lack of advanced brewing features (e.g., flow control, pressure profiling)",[2244,2248,2251],[2245,2246,2247],"the no frills approach (e.g. no pressure profiling or pre infusion without mods/plumb in)","A lot of modern espresso brewing techniques (turbo shots, blooming, 6-bar, slayer etc) that make your shots (especially light roasts) really shine are simply not possible without modding the micra.","I cannot go back to the frustration of having no flow control",[2249,2250],"I wanted more capabilities than just pulling straight 9 bar shots.","I personally wouldn’t touch their prosumer line until they put out a machine that has both manual and volumetric capabilities.",[2252,2253,2254,2255],"What annoys me most is I want to brew by weight with a dual boiler machine so it makes my espresso and I can steam the milk simultaneously.","I don’t need to tinker the way a decent can allow, but I also don’t want to watch my shot and stop it.","Would be amazing to have it stop at weight WHILE I get my milk ready bc the LMLMicra is a double boiler.","Yup, I saw a modification that I could do but it voids the warranty and doesn’t look amazing",{"model_id":2257,"series_id":219,"slug":2258,"name":2259,"brand_name":754,"img_url":2260,"positive":727,"neutral":187,"negative":86,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":31,"first_listing":2261,"top_summary_points":2264,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":11},32461,"model/delonghi-magnifica-plus-fully-automatic-espresso-machine","Magnifica Plus Fully Automatic Espresso Machine","https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41hq-QXmFIL._SL500_.jpg",{"url":2262,"price":2263,"img_url":2260,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":11,"seller_site_name":1507,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DG4BCHK8?tag=redditrecs-g-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1",1299.95,[2265,2273,2283,2293],{"title":1522,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2266,"likes_count":106,"dislikes_count":776},[2267,2269,2271],[2268],"can sometimes be had super cheaply (I have picked them up for between $30-100 used on FBM if you're patient)",[2270],"It wasn't cheap but it has paid for itself over the years.",[2272],"this thing has paid for itself within the two first months of owning it.",{"title":2274,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2275,"likes_count":157,"dislikes_count":776},"Fully automated and self-sufficient",[2276,2278,2280],[2277],"you have the best home superautomic made.",[2279],"just pour in the beans and over a dozen different types of coffees at the touch of a button.",[2281,2282],"You just press 1 button and it grinds the beans, packs them and pours the espresso shot!","It packs it down, pushes it and pours the coffee 100% without needing to remove a head attachment thing.",{"title":2284,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2285,"likes_count":776,"dislikes_count":81},"Loud operation during grinding",[2286,2289,2291],[2287,2288],"The plus was loud.","The machine rattled and vibrated during the grinding.",[2290],"it’s loud (buzzy)",[2292],"I don’t know if I would call it quiet",{"title":2294,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2295,"likes_count":776,"dislikes_count":202},"Espresso taste can be burnt/bitter with certain beans",[2296,2298],[2297],"4/10 espresso",[2299],"Espresso shots look good with a nice consistency and crema but have a bitterness to them.",{"model_id":2301,"series_id":219,"slug":2302,"name":2303,"brand_name":404,"img_url":2304,"positive":2305,"neutral":197,"negative":212,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":157,"first_listing":2306,"top_summary_points":2309,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":202},32835,"model/gaggia-classic-evo-pro","Classic Evo Pro","https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31Yzp6iOsDL._SL500_.jpg",134,{"url":2307,"price":2308,"img_url":2304,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":11,"seller_site_name":1507,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JXH1BBM?tag=redditrecs-g-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1",529.99,[2310,2318,2325,2332],{"title":2311,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2312,"likes_count":564,"dislikes_count":11},"Excellent value for money, particularly when modified or bought used",[2313,2315,2316],[2314],"if you can mod then 1000% gaggia.",[1617],[2317],"i bought some new gaskets, and a few upgrades spending no more than $50 and I guarantee it'll run for another 25 years",{"title":1622,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2319,"likes_count":545,"dislikes_count":81},[2320,2321,2322],[1625,1626],[1628],[2323,2324],"parts are abundant.","Parts list: Ims basket is $25 New gasket is $13 Cafiza or specialty cleaning agent $15",{"title":2326,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2327,"likes_count":824,"dislikes_count":182},"Inconsistent temperature control in stock form",[2328,2329,2331],[1637],[2330],"My chief issue with the Gaggia is how inconsistent it feels in terms of things like temp stability and even output.",[1639],{"title":2333,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2334,"likes_count":824,"dislikes_count":96},"Limited for making multiple milk drinks due to single boiler",[2335,2339,2342],[2336,2337,2338],"Boiler size? cause thats a big limitation on the gcp even modded","Mines an old 2018/19 with the tiny 50ml boiler. Lungos when entertaining its a limitation.","Did they keep it 50mL cause that's the biggest drawback.",[2340,2341],"I'm not a fan of making multiple milk drinks on a single boiler, especially when someone asks for one after I've already gotten to steam temperature.","Yeah that’s my biggest complaint about single boilers too",[2343],"You can forget about pulling two different shots and then steaming milk to make two lattes, as the wait time between shots and steaming would be too long to be practical, in my experience.",{"model_id":2345,"series_id":219,"slug":2346,"name":2347,"brand_name":291,"img_url":2348,"positive":1803,"neutral":76,"negative":141,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":197,"first_listing":2349,"top_summary_points":2352,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":202},31954,"model/breville-barista-pro-espresso-machine","Barista Pro Espresso Machine","https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41k0fTqdwWL._SL500_.jpg",{"url":2350,"price":2351,"img_url":2348,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":11,"seller_site_name":1507,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08133HX34?tag=redditrecs-g-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1",830,[2353,2364,2375,2384],{"title":2354,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2355,"likes_count":157,"dislikes_count":776},"Excellent value for money and cost savings",[2356,2360,2362],[2357,2358,2359],"Two years later and I’m still grateful for that little machine.","I make at least 4 double shots everyday, morning and noon-ish (two for me and two for my wife).","I don’t care if it dies in a year or two because it has already paid for itself tenfold.",[2361],"We were literally spending like $40/day on “out” coffees during our parental leave because it gave us something to do with baby and kept us awake, so it’s delightful to have most of that money back, even buying fancy beans!",[2363],"far and away the best choice at your budget.",{"title":2365,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2366,"likes_count":66,"dislikes_count":11},"Excellent durability and longevity",[2367,2368,2371],[2357,2358,2359],[2369,2370],"lasts slightly less than forever.","I have had mine for 7 years and it has never missed a beat. Just keeps on trucking.",[2372,2373,2374],"Had mine for about 6 years now.","Make 2-3 drinks a day, so figure 5000-6000 uses so far.","Zero issues.",{"title":2376,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2377,"likes_count":86,"dislikes_count":212},"Limitations in espresso quality, consistency, and advanced brewing control",[2378,2380,2382],[2379],"Because the internal burr is set at 6 and will pull sour shots.",[2381],"The primary issue with them in my experience is that they are inconsistent - sometimes the espresso is amazing and other times it’s just totally off even though all the same parameters are in place.",[2383],"the built in grinder can be very inconsistent",{"title":2385,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2386,"likes_count":172,"dislikes_count":679},"Poor quality and inconsistent built-in grinder",[2387,2390,2392],[2388,2389],"the machine makes a very unpleasant noise as it refuses to grind as a protective measure in case there's an actual rock.","Then I'd have to unplug the machine so I can safely pick out the beans with my fingers, then continue the grind by slowly feeding into the grinder at the cost of consistency, or feed in single beans one by one at the cost of time, and remember to do this from now on for that particular bag of coffee.",[2391],"the machine is physically incapable of chewing through dense lightly roasted specialty beans.",[2379],{"model_id":2394,"series_id":219,"slug":2395,"name":2396,"brand_name":291,"img_url":2397,"positive":2398,"neutral":212,"negative":26,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":66,"first_listing":2399,"top_summary_points":2402,"summary_points_more_likes":202,"summary_points_more_dislikes":202},32029,"model/breville-barista-express","Barista Express","https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41R0OMqpRgL._SL500_.jpg",122,{"url":2400,"price":2401,"img_url":2397,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":11,"seller_site_name":1507,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CH9QWOU?tag=redditrecs-g-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1",549.95,[2403,2408,2418,2425],{"title":2151,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2404,"likes_count":913,"dislikes_count":11},[2405,2406,2407],[2154,2155,2156],[2158],[2160,2161],{"title":2409,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2410,"likes_count":2417,"dislikes_count":824},"Exceptional durability and longevity",[2411,2412,2414],[2166,2167],[2413],"Mines on year 5 and still going strong, has never once broke.",[2415,2416],"I decided on it because we had one at work that served 20+ people a day for 5 years and was still going when I left.","I have first hand experience with one lasting 5+ years in an abusive office setting.",114,{"title":2385,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2419,"likes_count":202,"dislikes_count":2424},[2420,2421,2422],[2178,2179,2180],[2182,2183],[2423],"the built in grinder is junk(inconsistent grinds, frequently slides out of adjustment, stalls on lighter roasts or oily dark roasts)",92,{"title":2426,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2427,"likes_count":776,"dislikes_count":141},"High maintenance and time-consuming daily workflow",[2428,2430,2433],[2429],"I spent two months where my morning coffee took 45 minutes each day (mostly cleanup)",[2431,2432],"without having to worry about grinding beans, throwing them away etc.","the nespresso is just so much quicker.",[2434],"Both types require maintenance. VERY important maintenance.",{"model_id":219,"series_id":2436,"slug":2437,"name":2438,"brand_name":754,"img_url":2439,"positive":1766,"neutral":752,"negative":46,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":116,"first_listing":2440,"top_summary_points":2444,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":81},269,"series/delonghi-dedica-series","Dedica Series","https://dam.delonghi.com/902x902/assets/245807",{"url":2441,"price":2442,"img_url":2443,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":11,"seller_site_name":1507,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KA8YC6A?tag=redditrecs-g-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1",169.99,"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/4159YT8KZEL._SL500_.jpg",[2445,2457,2466,2474],{"title":2446,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2447,"likes_count":111,"dislikes_count":86},"Affordable price and great value",[2448,2450,2454],[2449],"I got off adverts for €20",[2451,2452,2453],"I bought it for **22k** just two weeks ago.","I tracked the prices for the past year, it never went on sale (and now it is).","So yes, at this price, don't even think about it.",[2455,2456],"For this price, it's a steal.","It was retailing in AZ for ₹25K +.",{"title":2458,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2459,"likes_count":141,"dislikes_count":776},"Compact design for smaller spaces",[2460,2462,2464],[2461],"I live in a studio and also needed minimal counter space taken up and this works beautifully.",[2463],"absolutely no point in upgrading this machine as long as I am living by myself most of the time and having little kitchen space.",[2465],"it is the best (only?) one that could fit in my tiny kitchen.",{"title":1533,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2467,"likes_count":776,"dislikes_count":16},[2468,2470,2472],[2469],"impossible to dial in",[2471],"makes better shots than my dedica maestro plus by a very wide margin.",[2473],"I'd still drink the shots straight from my Dedica, sour or bitter as they were.",{"title":2475,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2476,"likes_count":187,"dislikes_count":66},"Stock pressurized basket limits espresso quality",[2477,2481,2486],[2478,2479,2480],"The stock portafilter is basically for preground fake crema espresso.","I've tried it as my first shot and it's pretty terrible compared to real espresso.","you'll basically never need the stock portafilter and baskets again, so just put them away in the box. They're not meant for real espresso anyway, more so for casual drinkers who only buy preground coffee.",[2482,2483,2484,2485],"you would need an espresso capable grinder and some accessories along with the machine to help it make \"real\" espresso, meaning shots that are from non-pressurized baskets and properly dialled in for depth of flavour.","I chose the Dedica EC685 as a starter machine for 15k, but have since bought add-ons worth over 10k that I see as absolutely necessary (some optional) upgrades and accessories I needed to get a higher potential out of what is otherwise quite a handicapped machine the way it comes out of the factory.","One needs a non pressurized basket with ideally a bottomless portafilter, steam wand mod upgrade (in my case), scale, tamper, puck prep tools eg. wdt, dosing ring, tamping mat, knockbox and puck screen for cleanliness, milk pitcher for latte art, etc...","most of these things were the bare minimum to make my machine work like a real espresso machine",[2471],{"model_id":2488,"series_id":219,"slug":2489,"name":2490,"brand_name":848,"img_url":2491,"positive":528,"neutral":16,"negative":76,"pd_category_id":56,"sort_index":46,"first_listing":2492,"top_summary_points":2497,"summary_points_more_likes":81,"summary_points_more_dislikes":202},32588,"model/la-marzocco-linea-mini","Linea Mini","https://lamarzoccousa.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Linea-Mini-Silver-mat-front-1.png",{"url":2493,"price":2494,"img_url":2491,"currency":1506,"seller_site_id":2495,"seller_site_name":2496,"is_prime_day_deal":219},"https://lamarzoccousa.com/home-products/espresso-machines/linea-mini/",6600,8265,"La Marzocco USA",[2498,2509,2519,2527],{"title":2499,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2500,"likes_count":564,"dislikes_count":86},"Robust, durable, and reliable build quality",[2501,2505,2506],[2502,2503,2504],"Good mechanical design and support, a machine worth fixing, with an expert network and spare parts.","talking with my local La Marzocco repair guys who said he could talk me through things and fix the machine if I couldn't","when I looked at the machines in the cafes and restaurants there were so many La Marzocco La Linea Classic machines that I figured I could tap into that durability and service network in the future when needed.",[2225],[2507,2508],"Essentially about quality & reliability of the things that matter most. In espresso making: temp / pressure stability, material quality, steaming power.","I'd do Linea Mini if I can afford it",{"title":2510,"category":1511,"top_quotes":2511,"likes_count":141,"dislikes_count":776},"Powerful and high-quality steam for milk drinks",[2512,2514,2516],[2513],"The steam power on the LM is easily 10x stronger, so if you’re into latte art it’s amazing",[2515],"Once you get used to the power of the LMLM, which takes 12 seconds to steam milk, it is very had to use a weaker machine.",[2517,2518],"The biggest noticeable difference is in the steaming, where the LM wins hands down.","steams wonderfully.",{"title":2520,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2521,"likes_count":11,"dislikes_count":212},"High price and poor value",[2522,2523,2524],[2234,2235,2236],[2238],[2525,2526],"they both have plastic frames","are not worth it unless you hate having 5k for literally anything else.",{"title":2528,"category":1534,"top_quotes":2529,"likes_count":81,"dislikes_count":192},"Lack of built-in flow or pressure control",[2530,2532,2536],[2531],"it’s limited to a simplistic flat 9 bar profile (unless plumbed in), which is miserly and shortsighted for the price point.",[2533,2534,2535],"I want something a little more versatile with pressure profiling","I’m all ears if there’s a mod community for flow profiling on the LM!","having more control of that variable will make for some fun experimentation.",[2537,2538],"very limited pre-infusion control (basically no real pre infusion )","I wouldn't pay so much for something that doesn't give me a ton of 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