Mad Catz - R.A.T. 3

Ah yes you was how I was then! I had the mad catz rat3 and it lasted me until december 2021 when I got the DWS. Difference is I never had a problem with the rat3 and now in 3.5 years the DWS is broke because of shoddy craftsmanship of the new company :(

I've had the madcatz rat 3 for 10 years I think

Unfortunately, brands only make good shit when they're new/growing. So for a new G402, look for a brand that is still trying to build brand-loyalty and grow a wide gamer-stan audience. Dareu will do you right. The web-software compatible ASUS mice are actually goated and exactly what you're looking for (though they've yet to release a new browser-software Chakram, only 2 button mice). Glorious is perpetually stuck in decent-quality limbo due to their extremely flaky fanbase (which is a score cause it keeps Glorious mostly on the straight and narrow). Keychron is experiencing growing pains, the M6 is trash due to a hardware glitch in the sensor, but the M7 and M5 are actually great. And of course, Mad Catz will always make the single-most over-built indestructible mice on the planet (and then go bankrupt for the 7 billionth time, have another worker union go on strike and overthrow the CEO during a revolution, go bankrupt again, then come back from the dead right when you least expect it). My original R.A.T. 3 is still my travel mouse, it's been with me for over half my life (and is older than the G402) and still works as it did brand-new (earlier this year the rubberized coating did finally goober, but after going at it with the 50 grit it's good as new again). That thing survived getting thrown full force against a brick wall and a concrete floor during my 12yo gamer-rage era, has moved 16 times, survived 8 years of getting crammed into a backpack that was yeeted around during commutes (was usually in the bottom of the backpack getting crushed by textbooks) and never used on a mouse-pad (only wood tables, glass tables, really worn cutting-mats, marble and masonry counters too). That shit don't break like genuinely I thought people were joking about bad switches, glitchy sensors, and back-scrolling scroll-wheels until I got a Razer mouse and it broke in 4 months (with very delicate use cause I actually really cared about the Razer mouse cause it was expensive). The only other brand that rivals the absolute-unit built quality of my first ever gaming mouse, is Pulsar. Unfortunately Pulsar only makes 2 button mice, but their software and build quality are absolutely top-dollar. Just wish they made an MMO mouse, fortunately Mad Catz has released a revised MMO7+ so when I have the cash that's my new MMO mouse that'll last me the rest of my life probably. I mean the Rat 3 is still going strong and the MMO7+ has metal-reinforcements throughout it's shell for enhanced durability so I seriously doubt that mouse will break anytime soon as I no longer yeet mice into brick walls full-force (though somehow the MMO7+ is the second lightest wireless MMO mouse out there, second to the Aerox 9 which has such a terrible shape it genuinely feels twice as heavy than it actually is, plus I accidentally dipped my Aerox 9 in acid and it's slowly turning into a sponge. Of course if you're happy with a 2 button mouse, the Kysona Uranus Pro is absolutely GOATED that thing is built like a tank, I haven't yeeted it but I'd have 100% confidence the Uranus Pro would survive a year of the brick wall treatment no questions.

Bro that shit crawled out of a NY sewer it was so bad. Heavy as hell, “muh ergonomic’s” it was over engineered and not helpful, and it suffers from rubber reversion. It looked cool tho, PC mag wrote that article on it and made it sell like crazy until people realized it was awful.

Bro that shit crawled out of a NY sewer it was so bad. Heavy as hell, “muh ergonomic’s” it was over engineered and not helpful, and it suffers from rubber reversion. It looked cool tho, PC mag wrote that article on it and made it sell like crazy until people realized it was awful. But if you like it, you like it.

An Ironclaw is probably your best bet, but the finish tends to wear excessively fast and some issues with scroll wheels have been reported. I'm in a similar boat. I have a g502 Lightspeed, and while I am fine with the thumb button placements, I find my pinky and ring finger feel too cramped. The only mice I've ever used that felt spacious enough were the R.A.T. series. The R.A.T. 3 was the first (and best) of the series I owned. Bought it well over 20 years ago. My brother uses it on his rig this very day. I eventually got a R.A.T. 9, but the sensor was awful, frequent disconnects, etc. A few years later they were bought up and the new series released (even numbers instead of odd). I got a R.A.T 6 and a R.A.T. 8. They were both awful and suffered from the side buttons failing after 3-6 months. Ergonomically, they were great, but their QC sucked ass and killed the company. There are also vertical mice, or perhaps an Elecom trackball mouse. Those are fucking huge. Elecom is sort of iffy. Really everything is.

Anecdotally, the only decent R.A.T. I ever owned is a R.A.T. 3. My brother is still using it to this day some 15 years later. Anything after that in the R.A.T. lineup has been an abysmal waste of money. I upgraded to a R.A.T.9 at some point, and the sensor was absolute ass. Then upgraded to a R.A.T.8, and the side buttons/switched started breaking after 3 months. I'll never touch a R.A.T./Madcatz product again. Since then I've stuck mostly with a G502 LightSpeed. It's not perfect, but I have now had it for about 5 years without any major issues. Did have to do a battery swap after a couple years. IDK If an ironclaw would suit this guy, and I am loathe to recommend anything Corsair that isn't a PSU, but ottomh, that's the largest mouse I can think of.

I have a cyborg rat 3 that I still use today. Bought it when it came out. Best mouse ever until I got wireless G502X. 😂

I have a cyborg rat 3 that I still use today. Bought it when it came out. Best mouse ever until I got wireless G502X. 😂

I have a cyborg rat 3 that I still use today. Bought it when it came out. Best mouse ever until I got wireless G502X. 😂

Hey guys, I haven’t tested many mice. My current mouse is the Ninjutsu Sora V1, and I play a claw/palm grip. My previous mice were the Logitech G Pro Superlight 2, the Razer Viper Ultimate, and long long time ago the Mad Catz R.A.T. 3 😂 My hand size: Length: 18.5 cm Width: 10 cm Personally, I hate the G Pro Superlight. It feels slippery because my hands sweat a lot, and the shape just isn’t for me. The Viper was better, but still not perfect. With my Ninjutsu Sora V1, I kinda like the shape and really like the texture. But I think it’s a bit small for my hand, and it started to squeak after long-term use. I’m not looking for the exact same shape, and I’m open to trying different grips. The most important things for me are: lightweight, good texture, solid build quality, and satisfying clicks. Now I need your suggestions!

Yes mad catz and rat 3 was the best mouse I’ve every owned back in the day

It was heavy as hell and built like a tank

Was looking for R.A.T.! My preferred mouse. I haven't had one for a while, the RAT 3 was my first one and that lasted a long time, when that finally died, I got a 7 which did not last long and the 8 lasted a bit longer and still functions but a side button broke. Currently using a Corsair Dark Core with the thumb and pinky rests. it's not as wide as I would likebut decent,