Pulsar Gaming Gears - Xlite V3 Mini

Slightly smaller hands but I claw a bit too, went back to ergo because more comfy for MMOs as I am not playing FPS as much right now, find claw mice better for FPS. Anyway. Lamzu Paro might be another to add to your list. Will keep tabs on this however as I am interested moving to something a fraction bigger than my Pulsar Xlite V3 mini.

My hands are 17,5x9 and i tried the Xlite V3 Mini. It didnt really click for me and i think it was the right side being a bit too narrow or the pinky winding up too far forward cause of the length. I'm on a Sword X now, i was afraid it would be too big but because it is pretty low for its size it feels very manuverable but at the same time comfortable. It's very easy to move it with just the fingertips or clamp down with the knuckles when needed.

I think the zowie EC2 or viper v3 pro shapes are the best and this is coming from someone with small hands that has been using small mice exclusively for many years now. Recently got a pulsar xlite v3 mini (smaller than ec2, wish I had gotten a bigger one) and the atk x1 which is a viper v3 pro clone and I have been having a blast, for the first time in my life it feels like my grip is 100% comfortable with these 2. I haven't tried many ergos but I would recommend the xlite v3/v4 medium, deathadder hyperspeed (haven't tried it but looks good) and the atk x1 (has like 6 different versions, depending on what you need and the budget, or maybe you can get a viper v3 pro if you want the real one)

>But to pretend they're the same quality as a bigger brand is just copium. I mean there is nothing else like the X2 Crazylight from the higher-end brands so what else am I going to buy?? Razer is refusing to make high-end version of their mini mice, so if we were to compare the wired Viper Mini to the X2 Crazylight, the X2 has better quality outright. I used to own the Viper Mini SE (the magnesium shell) and it broke within a couple of days since one of the shell strut just snapped, my review even got mentioned in a GamersNexus video back in the day about the downsides of magnesium mice. It also has huge friggin holes, small scratchy feet, crap raesha switches, fingerprint magnet coating, and it's heavier overall. I really don't see why the X2 Crazylight is not considered the superior product over the Viper Mini, let alone the Viper Mini SE or the Cobra. Don't even get me started with the Xlite Crazylight compared to their wired Deathadder Mini and DAv3 hyperspeed. I have both on my table right now and the DAv3 HS has started to creak and the top layer coating on the thumb area is beginning to peel, revealing the bare plastic underneath the rubberised coating. My Xlite V3 Mini is still solid and the Xlite Crazylight is somehow more solid than the Xlite V3 and DAv3 HS despite being much lighter (also no more raesha switches). So... X2 Crazylight >Viper Mini / Viper Mini SE / Viper Cobra Xlite Crazylight > Xlite V3 Mini > DA Mini / DAv3 HS

EXACTLY the same problems as myself. I've tried a bunch of other shapes for my grip (pure fingertip/relaxed fingertip) like beast x mini, x2v2 mini, Atlantis mini, xlite v3 mini, and none came close to the feeling and aim potential the g305 gives me. the only mouse that worked similarly so far is the zaopin z1 pro, which is the only one I didn't sell and been maining since I switched off the g305. though, still waiting for a proper lightweight, good sensor and switches g305 clone (ATK please make one) so I can compare with the z1 pro.

yeah my hand started to hurt after an hour using the NP01S or the Pulsar Xlite V3 mini. I just got the Teevolution Terra and its the most comfortable ergo ive held so far.

just going to reiterate what others have already said. you seem to be using a palm grip so an ergo is probably the best option. if you have large hands good options are, in no particular order: zowie ec1-dw razer deathadder v3 or v4 pro logitech pro x superlight 2 dex pulsar xlite v3 or v4 (size 3 / large) teevolution terra pro some of those models also come in medium size too if the large variant did feel too big.

In terms of my oldest proper gaming mice i have a Logitech G203 Prodigy i bought in 2019 with thousands of hours of use on it and it still works fine, scroll wheel click is a little stiffer than when new i think but it still works. Also have a Pulsar Xlite V3 mini i bought on release, so like 2-3 years ago now, with i'd assume high hundreds to low +thousand hours on it and it still works fine. A Logitech Superlight 2 that i bought about 2-3 months after release so also around 2-3 years old now. It has less use than the others, not sure what hours i have on it but works like it did new (though i think the main clicks became less heavy/stiff after use which is a bonus to me).

Xlite v3/v4 if if you want a longer and wider mouse than the xlite v2 mini it is also has a taller hump. Now for a back hump ergo teevolution terra, pulsar x3 / mini, pulsar zywoo medium / mini, lamzu thorn (or you can wait for the new model of Thorn which some said it's bigger than the current thorn), outset ax.

Some mice worth checking out - cobra hyperspeed, op18k v2, xlite v3 mini

Logitech stopped making good palm grip mice since the Millennium Falcon mouse. \- EC2/1-DW #goated \- Pulsar Xlite V3 Medium -only 75$ and it’s a little bigger than the EC2(MX518 size) and slightly too big for my average 18.7 x 9.8 cm hands to reach the right corner with my index finger and only 75$ total and don’t get V4 it has worse shape (top right corner isn’t comfortable) and speed skates Which Size? EC2 and the Xlite are very comfortable to grip at the front of the mouse with rounded corners and the front of the mouse if flat so you really can’t go too small as the smallest ergo I know of, the Xlite V3 Small, is really comfortable for me to palm as I can rest my index finger on the corner and it feels super comfortable like resting my index finger on the signature edge of the MX518. The difference is large size = more palm support for stable flicking with your whole arm and sizing down = your grip moves up on the mouse for more accurate wrist aiming so I would probably get the EC1 because it sounds like you don’t use wrist aim much and your flicks will especially be stable with the black skates applied but the Xlite V3 Medium probably won’t be much different in performance overall and half the price. **Warning:** I would stay away from the Razer DAV3/4 and GPX Dex unless you try it out in Best buy or somewhere as DAV3/4 has sharp edges and GPX Dex has flaring at the front that makes my right 2 fingers hurt like hell almost immediately.

I would try the Xlite Crazylight for your normal sized hands if you like Dav3 HS. I have similarly sized 18.7 cm x 9.8 cm hands and I really like the Xlite Mini size as it's small but the hump is proportioned to normal sized hands vs EC3, Xlite Feignnman, and and WLmouse Sword where my hand doesn't seem wide enough to get around the back of the mouse and touch the low hump resulting in little palm support.

I love palm gripping the OG RVM! I mained it for years with 18.7 x 9.8 cm hands. Your hands are pretty skinny so I’d recommend the New Xlite Crazylight in white color only as black coating is slippery as hell! Also I like the Xlite V3 original thin skates for 5$ on Amazon. If you can’t get it in white or want something cheaper I really like the Xlite V3 Mini open box (same shape just older model).

Yeah I've got a FNATIC one. Before getting it I tried XLite V3 Mini, which is just a smaller ec2. It didn't suit me at all lol. My thumb couldn't get locked in anywhere. It was just sliding across the side of the mouse. And the side buttons are placed horribly, my thumb was way behind them buttons so I couldn't press them comfortably. So I returned the Pulsar mouse and got the Thorn. It felt much better, its more on a neutral side tho. And I really do like Raesha Opticals somehow. They're on a lighter side which I really like. I've got 77 hours in kovaaks (jade tracking complete with some master scores in VT benchmark) so I've got some thoughts about Thorn and Mad R. And I'm a glass pad user btw. Thorn - gives sooo much stability for me. I play relaxed claw, sometimes agressive claw. The mouse feels locked in while still having the finger movement. Mad R - light af but yk how it feels already with Hyperlight. My other friend who's much better at aiming than me said that Mad R felt bad for him cause its like raised at the bottom and his fingers just crawl under the mouse lmao. Overall I like it, I mainly play static with it (I SUCK at static). The only thing I don't really like are the Omron switches (most fucking rng switches on the market). They feel do hard to click somehow lol That's it ig, if you any more questions, feel free to ask :3