Beyerdynamic - DT 880 Edition

I havent tried the 1990 yet. But personally i think that dt 900 pro x and dt 880 pro 600 ohm are their best products. I prefer the dt 900 pro x and dt 880 pro 600 ohm over the dt 770 pro non x.

Beyerdynamic is great! I've been using various models of DT 880 since about 2004. What's great is that replacement parts are readily available for the pads and sliders, and anything else that might break. I still have a pair of the 250ohm version that's been running great since 2007, and I just had to replace the sliders once and headband+earpads um... dunno how many times. These days I use a DT 880 Edition 600 ohm with a modded cable for balanced drive and they're just the best for me.

Beyerdynamic is great! I've been using various models of DT 880 since about 2004. What's great is that replacement parts are readily available for the pads and sliders, and anything else that might break. I still have a pair of the 250ohm version that's been running great since 2007, and I just had to replace the sliders once and headband+earpads um... dunno how many times. These days I use a DT 880 Edition 600 ohm with a modded cable for balanced drive and they're just the best for me.

My beyerdynamic DT 880 Premium Edition 250 Ohm have finally quit after 8 years of extensive use. So I find myself to be in the market of a pair of new one. I mostly work from home and also play games on my PC so I am looking for something that does everything well: 1. ⁠I wear mine more then 8 hrs a day so comfort is my top priority. 2. ⁠I listen to light music when I type so good human voice and mid range is important. 3. ⁠I call into meetings but that's an easy one since I have a dedicated mic. 4. ⁠I play games so some space awareness provided would be nice but am no longer competitive so as long as the lag is not totally out of sync I am okay. 5. ⁠My only complaint about the DT880 was that the wire keeps tangling up with my office chair so am really looking to get something wireless this time. 6. ⁠I have a dedicated office in my house so noise in or out is not an issue. My budget is around $500 but can be convinced to $1000 if there is something that is significantly better by going up. I currently run my 880 with a Creative Sound Blaster Zx PCIe Gaming Sound Card with amp so anything under 250 ohm should be fine but I suppose it doesn't matter if I go wireless. Thanks in advance for any tips and suggestions

Accurate bass in headphones is a difficult ask, sealed headphones usually manage good bass extension but because a sealed headphone is a resonant chamber the bass is listener-dependent and usually not of the best quality / consistency, while open headphones tend to have too poor bass for mixing EDM by feel if you don't have a very robust idea of what a good song is supposed to sound like on them. The ATH M-series bass response however is infamously awful, with a low mid dip leading into highly elevated midbass leading into once again tapered off subbass, I can hear the effect the M40X were having on mixing decisions in mixes I did while using them. The DT770 are far from a perfect headphone and depending on your anatomy might have terrible sibilance (headphones sound different for everyone) but for a not-too-expensive closed headphone I'd consider it a major upgrade from the M50X in terms of the quality of the bass and in terms of being overall well behaved, with the treble, while elevated, feeling far more consistent and transparent as well. They won't replace a good pair of monitors for final mix referencing but there's a good reason they've remained an industry fixture, they're a non-neutral but reliable, known, workable closed back headphone for production. All this mostly just goes for the 250ohm version with grey pads, the sound is heavily dependent on the pads, the black velours pads are not the same, they tune the sound very different (more mid-scooped). if DT770s are too bright they can be made a bit darker by using anything ranging from 1 single ply from multi-ply toilet paper to a full multi-layer paper towel to cover (ideally only the center of) the driver assembly. Bass response also depends on seal and is slightly lessened (brought to pretty much neutral) when wearing thin-armed glasses. The DT880 series is a finicky bunch that measures very different at times for non-obvious reasons. The Pro version has a much higher clamping force on the headband and this forces the pads to compress more, as a consequence making them denser (retaining more bass) but also lessening the size of the chamber between your ear and the driver which increases sub-bass rolloff, as a consequence the Edition version (non-pro) has been measured as having a generally more neutral bass response. These are however, bass-light headphones, lighter than neutral monitors in a room, especially in the sub bass. If you do not have another reference they're nearly impossible to mix EDM on, though it's possible to use EQ to correct the bass to nearly neutral, but don't expect to achieve impressive levels of loudness when doing so, as it increases the load on the headphones. They also have the famed beyer treble spike, which either works for you or doesn't, but if it does, then with the bass corrected via EQ they can be very good referencing headphones, more honest than the DT770. The Black Edition is not the same, largely due to the black pads, which just like with black DT770 pads, perform different, massively elevating especially the low mid frequencies and making for a very warm, boomy headphone that still lacks sub bass extension. The Sennheiser HD 600 series is generally considered the king of neutral sound, these headphones measure exceptionally neutral pretty much from 100hz to 10khz, but they have much poorer listener to listener frequency response consistency than Beyerdynamic headphones do, leading to wildly diverging opinions that might all be correct. They also lack sub bass and are really poor for EDM as a result, but can be corrected using EQ into having the right amount of bass, and are highly regarded for very good reason. If you can make these work for you these are, dare I say, objectively good. I do not personally like them. The Sennheiser HD560S could be considered akin to a 600 series headphone with a slightly more Beyerdynamic-esque treble profile and better sub bass extension, and is also much cheaper, but has less of a studio pedigree, and official pad replacements are not available any more. All in all if I had to boil down my recommendations: If you want a no nonsense headphone that doesn't require additional software or hardware adjustments, DT770 250ohm, possibly paper towel modded. If you can handle somewhat light-feeling accurate bass without making mistakes and want the accuracy of open back headphones without diving into headphone correction and can get along with something on the brighter side of the Sennheiser sound, HD560S. If you're willing to EQ up the sub bass on your headphones to be able to mix EDM on them but want what many regard as the best of the best for good reason, HD 600 series headphones of choice. If you can get along with the Beyerdynamic treble signature, want maybe the most comfortable headphones on earth, and are okay EQing up the sub bass to be able to mix EDM on them: DT880 Edition 250ohm, can also be toilet paper / paper towel modded in case of the treble being too much but if you're using some form of frequency response correction anyways you might as well leave them unmodified. An honorary mention goes to AKG K371, which are a closed headphone with an uncharacteristically well behaved response all the way from the sub bass to the midrange, without major peaks and valleys, only a bit of a warm tilt. They are overall bass heavy headphones but their performance is remarkable at the price point. They are however infamous for being extremely easy to break, and by their design I know I'd kill them in no time, which is why they're not a solid recommendation.

“I did plenty of research before the purchase, and I did not expect how hot the treble is on these things.” What reviews did you read that they didn’t reference the infamous Mt. Beyer treble peaks?!? From my understanding, Beyer based their house sound off of pure Free-Field response curves… how a “flat” monitor speaker is perceived by a microphone in an anechoic chamber, or in other words all influence of walls and a performance space is removed. I don’t know how close they positioned the mic to the speaker in their measurements, but it seems there was NO treble energy lost over distance. It’s an “off” unnatural sound to me, because I always listen to speakers in a room, or a concert in an orchestra hall or performance amphitheater. I guess Beyer’s target sounds close to PA speakers of a rock & roll concert performed in a grassy meadow, but those kinds of performances always left my ears ringing… and guess what Beyers do to me? I did read numerous complaints about the upper mids and treble about Beyerdynamic’s DT880 and DT990, but I also read a few fans who praised them for their clarity, transparency, and comfort. As a gamer, I thought they would give me analytical fidelity, extra “detail” that would help me play more competitively, and maybe the detractors were over exaggerating. I’ve always been the type to weigh positive reviews more than negative ones. From my research, I also picked up a Premium model because they have a lower clamping force and more comfort than the Pro models, a less snag-some straight cable than the heavy coiled cable of the Pro, and I also got a higher 600 Ω model because I thought it had the best potential and I had a nice tube hybrid amp that should be powerful enough for it. When it arrived from Amazon, I was shocked how much it sounded like listening to music through a tin-can. It’s repeated over and over that too much bass can overwhelm and muddy the mids and other frequencies, well I’m here to tell you that too much treble can also mask other frequencies in the same way. There’s something else about the “classic” Beyer highs too… they’re not just relatively louder, I also felt like there was a glare that made me wince more than, say, a Stax played with the highs at the same decibels or louder. Also, I read almost universal praise for Beyerdynamic’s plus velour earpads… but I can’t understand why nobody mentioned that the headband had a hard, prominent stitching along the entire underside length, and why no tester didn’t tell Beyerdynamic that this was a terrible idea that would cause sore spots for anyone who doesn’t have really thick, lofty head of hair or a hat to do all the cushioning and pressure diffusion for Beyerdynamic’s work for them. Despite the ringing ears and fatigue, I gave the DT 880 as much of a chance to grow on me as I could, and used the entire Amazon return period to see if I could eventually get used to them. Nope. Refund. I will say, I have since learned that my ear canals are narrower than the average, and they create a resonance that seems to amplify highs more for me than other people whose resonant frequencies would be different. And I will add, if you felt like the DT990’s balance of frequencies was ok but you too wish it had less glare, I felt like the DT1990 was exactly the change Beyer needed to make. However, I think my favorite Beyer was their smaller on-ear ones… I forget their model number, but here’s a picture 😂 Also, I preferred the AKG K612 Pro and Sennheiser HD 660S2 over all of Beyer’s headphones, at least with my ears and subjective tastes. https://preview.redd.it/aglkjy37lblg1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c489c980ad363fc114ad1eb64453ba052f0303f9

I dunno why ppl buy these. Personally I think the Beyers are mostly newbie traps. The only Beyer I've liked was the 880 (600ohm), which I still own but haven't listened to in many years. Much better headphones out there.

Similar collection, I have a dt880 600ohm, focal Stellia, hd800 non s. No good planar at the moment just an old Audeze sine. Hd800 is my favorite but a lot of things to turn on to make it sound good so I don't reach for it lol.

I find all beyerdynamic headphones to be quite comfortable, but especially the DT880 edition (600ohm version with the different headband than what they normally use). Best headphones I have for long listening sessions by a long shot, but they definitely need some power. They have a slightly lighter clamping force than most other beyerdynamics, and more padding at the bottom of the headband to alleviate the hot spot on top of your head and spread out the pressure. They're also quite light for how large the ear pads are. I have the same issue with some of my other headphones, and it's instant relief when switching to the DT880 editions. You may also want to check out some of the open back Audio Technica headphones that rest more on the side or your head instead of directly on top, or some lightweight Grados if you're willing to try on-ears with a less conventional sound signature.

Helle there, I'm willing to get a DT880 @ 600ohms It will be mostly to listyen all kind of music and some Videogames like hunt showdown or other fps. I've already test the 32 ohms versions and i like how it sounds, now i need to change cause my actual headset is dead and i've seen the 600 ohms is a bit better than then 250 so why not buiying this little guy :) I've seen multiple posts about combo dac/amp like K5PRO ess that can drive them or some people told me Topping L30 II amp + Topping E 30 II dac. I'm thinking to take Topping L30 II only and use my Motherboard DAC which is an ESS 9218 dac chipset. I personnaly think that FIIO K5pro ess will be less good than the Topping L30/E30 II Do you think my MOBO dac + Topping L30 II will be good enough for this DT880 ? or should i get the E30 dac and plug it in usb on my PC ??? All advise will be consider :D Have a good days :)

I live in a country where none of the audiophile brand exist. None. Therefore I didn't have the luxury of testing headphones before buying them. I had to ask a family member to buy them and then send them over to my country. Therefore for someone like me who didn't have the option to try them, I think it was good to focus on not only the sound but the other characteristics as well. I initially went with the Beyerdynamics 880 and it was the worst purchase of my life. Gave me tinnitus with it's abysmal treble. Then I learned to actually research in depth and make my purchasing decisions around weight, comfort, durability, user serviceability and seeing what the pros already use. Bought the good old HD600. It's my endgame for mixing until I'm ready to spend over £2500 for a headphone. Which is not anytime soon.