Dreame - L40 Ultra Gen 2

Just picked up a dreame L40 Ultra gen 2 new in box for $200 off one of those bidding sites and ordered the tricut brush, this makes me feel better I did enough research and waited for the right deal lol thanks

Just noticed the Dreame L40 Ultra Gen2. Seems to be better than the L40s Ultra.

Here’s the clean breakdown: * **L40 Ultra Gen 2** Think of this as a **refined base model**. Same general L40 platform, but with incremental upgrades like better suction tuning, some dock improvements, and quieter/more efficient operation. It’s about polish and stability, not new sensing tech. * **L40S Ultra** This one leans into **feature upgrades** instead: better mop handling, nicer dock behavior, and (region-dependent) enhanced obstacle avoidance. In some regions it *looks* more advanced than Gen 2, but it’s not universally true everywhere. So it’s not strictly “Gen 2 is better than S” or vice versa. More like: * **Gen 2 = newer revision, smoother experience** * **S = feature-bumped variant of the original** And of course, to make it more fun, **regional differences apply**, so Gen 2 in one market may overlap or even surpass an S model in another. You’re absolutely right though — this is exactly why people get lost. Same base name, three different upgrade paths, zero clear hierarchy unless you dig into specs.

For a 65 m² apartment with LVP + rugs and long hair, I’d pick either the Dreame L40 Ultra CE (429€) or the Roborock Qrevo Master (469€). The L40 Ultra CE is a strong value because you still get the hands off dock experience, but it’s the more “budget minded” L40 variant (less advanced avoidance than the AI editions). The Qrevo Master is worth the extra 40€ if hair wrap drives you nuts, Roborock leans hard into anti tangle brush design and it tends to be low maintenance with long hair. I’d skip the L40 Ultra AE at 570€ for your layout unless you specifically want the extra obstacle smarts and hair focused brush bundle that comes with the higher trim, because 65 m² does not need the top tier to feel like a huge upgrade from Roomba + Braava. If you want the cheapest option that still feels “modern,” the D20 Ultra at 350€ is fine, but it’s the one I’d expect you to outgrow first compared to L40 CE or Qrevo Master.

Good breakdown — you’re actually pretty close already. Quick version: * The **L40 Ultra** has full mop lifting *and* mop parking (it can drop the mops off at the base station while doing vacuum-only work, so it's not dragging wet pads around on carpet). That’s basically the main feature the **MOVA P10 Pro Ultra** leaves out to hit the lower price point. * Suction power, water heating, and station functions are otherwise very similar between both. The P10 Pro Ultra is kind of Dreame’s "budget premium" — similar hardware, fewer bells and whistles. * For parts: most of the consumables (bags, rollers, brushes, filters) are interchangeable across the L10s Ultra, L40 Ultra, and MOVA P10 series. Always double-check your specific model when buying bags but you're mostly good. * In simple terms: L40 = better for mixed flooring + carpet. MOVA P10 = great deal if you’re mostly hard floors and don’t need full mop parking. Hope that helps — happy to answer if you’re still debating which one to go for!

**TL;DR:** * **L40 Ultra ($470):** Best bang-for-buck, handles hardwood + carpet fine, but may need a recharge for 3,700 sq ft. * **L50 Ultra ($1,099):** Stronger suction, smarter dock, climbs higher thresholds, longer runtime. 👉 If budget matters, grab the **L40 Ultra**. If you want *maximum convenience + futureproofing*, go **L50 Ultra**.

If you’re mostly on hardwood with just a couple of small door-way rugs, you don’t need the top-of-the-line X50 — any of Dreame’s mid-range models will handle that mix with ease. Here’s what I’d suggest: 1. **L40 Ultra** * **Why**: Great all-in-one suction + mop for hard floors, auto-empty dock, reliable 3D obstacle avoidance. * **Rugs**: It’ll detect and boost on those small mats (just mark them as “carpet” in the app so it doesn’t try to mop them). * **Price**: Falls in the sweet-spot for performance vs cost. 2. **L40S Ultra** * **Why**: Same core as the L40 Ultra but adds hot-water mop wash and onboard detergent module. * **Bonus**: If you want a deeper floor-wash every so often, this makes it effortless. 3. **X40 Ultra** (only if…) * You really care about the AI-camera obstacle avoidance (for cluttered homes, pet accidents, cables, etc.). * Otherwise you’ll be over-paying for a camera you won’t need on mostly open, hard-floor spaces. **What to do in the app**: * **Room setup**: Label your rugs as “carpet” so the bot knows to vacuum only. * **Cleaning sequence**: Create a two-step routine—first vacuum (Max), then mop—so you don’t mop over loose debris. That combo will give you spotless hardwood and tidy little rugs without the premium of the flagship models.

You're doing all the right homework here — and your English is excellent, no worries there. Between the L40 Ultra and the Qrevo Curv 5A1, you’re right that the L40 has stronger features on paper: auto mop pad removal, detergent tank, brush lifting, and usually great navigation. The Roborock Curv wins on suction and build reputation, but at a steep price. That said, if *returning isn't an option* in your situation, Roborock's proven track record and reliability might be the safer bet long-term. Dreame has made huge strides, but quality control can be hit-or-miss depending on the model and region — and if you get unlucky, you’d be stuck. If your floors are mostly hard and you value automation and features over suction power, the L40 Ultra might still be worth it. But if durability and support matter most, Roborock is probably the safer investment. Tough choice — just depends which risk feels more manageable.

For €500–600 you’re right in the sweet spot for Dreame’s “medium-range” lineup. The **L40 Ultra** is usually the best bang for the buck — strong suction, mop lift, and self-washing so you don’t have to babysit it. Works great in homes with pets (fur + litter dust). If you’ve got lots of carpet, though, the **X30 Ultra** is worth a look if you catch it on sale — better brush system + stronger edge cleaning. But for mostly hard floors, L40 Ultra is usually the smarter buy in your budget.

Hey! All great choices — thanks for considering Dreame for your first robot vac. Here’s a quick breakdown that might help: 🟢 **L40 Ultra** * Same core suction, mopping, and base features as the higher-end models * Great for smaller apartments like yours (and a solid value at 576 EUR) 🟢 **L40s Pro Ultra** * Adds dual front cameras for better obstacle recognition (like shoes, cords, etc.) * Slightly better in cluttered or dark spaces, but for a 40m² clean layout, the upgrade might not be necessary 🟢 **X40 Ultra** * Nearly identical to the L40s Pro Ultra — just with a bigger battery * Mostly helpful in large homes where battery life could matter **You can compare these side by side here:** [**tin.al/compare**](https://tin.al/compare) It's a great way to check what you're getting for the cost. **TL;DR:** For a clean 40m² space, the **L40 Ultra** is already a strong buy. You can save €200 and still get all the smart cleaning benefits. Let us know what you decide! We're here to help.

Yep you’ve already got one of the most balanced bots Dreame has made. The pop-out edge brush on the newer models does help on baseboards and chair legs, but it’s not game-changing unless edges are your #1 complaint. Suction numbers look wild on paper, but in real life the jump isn’t double the clean—it’s more about handling heavy rugs and deeper pile. Twin rollers are a bit nicer if you’ve got pets that shed a ton, otherwise your single rubber roller is fine. Hot water mop washing does leave pads fresher, but for day-to-day floors cold water isn’t holding you back. If you’re happy now, I’d ride the L10s a while longer. The “worth it” upgrades really only show up if you’ve got tricky rugs, a lot of pet hair, or you want every edge spotless.

Honestly, the L10s Ultra Gen 2 still holds up really well against the newer models — most of the upgrades are more about refinement than night-and-day differences. A few notes: * **Edge cleaning brush**: The pop-out brush on the L40/X40 does help in certain layouts, but it’s not magic. If your home has lots of obstacles and shorter wall runs, you’ll still see some misses. * **Suction**: The jump from \~11kPa to \~22kPa sounds massive, but in everyday cleaning the improvement is more modest — especially on hard floors where the L10s already does fine. It’s most noticeable on thicker carpets. * **Brushes**: Twin rollers are genuinely helpful for pets. They grab more hair and are less prone to tangles compared to the single roller, so that’s the biggest dog-owner benefit. * **Hot water washing**: Nice to have, but not a deal-breaker. It keeps mop pads fresher and helps with greasy messes, but cold wash + detergent tablets still does a solid job. If your L10s is already keeping up with your home, you’re not missing anything critical. The upgrade is worth it mostly if you want **less hair hassle** or if you have lots of carpet where stronger suction pays off. Otherwise, you’re in a good spot sticking with the L10s.

It would have to be the Dreame Ultra Gen 2. £300 at Costco UK. No brainer at that price

I lean slightly toward the Dreame L40 Ultra CE. The mop‑extension + side-brush really give it an edge (“corner cleaning” is often a pain point), and the strong suction is a big plus for real-world messes (especially in a busy home). The bigger dock is a trade-off, but probably worth it for how hands-off it can be. If you have some specific needs, [this comparison table ](https://technoranks.com/compare-products/?compareids=2389,1961)might help.

I think most people in this subreddit would agree that the key things in a robot vacuum are solid hard-floor cleaning, reliable pet-hair pickup, and predictable navigation. In my experience, the Roborock CurvX and Dreame L40 Ultra handle edges, thresholds, and obstacles well and don’t need much babysitting. For multi-floor or pet homes, they’re just much less frustrating day-to-day than most other models. for someone with more specific needs, [this comparison table](https://technoranks.com/compare-products/?compareids=2392,1907) might help.

For your setup, I’d go for [Dreame L40 Ultra](https://www.reddit.com/r/VacuumsTips/comments/1q33e0d/robot_vacuums_that_actually_make_sense_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). It’s reliable, avoids obstacles well, cleans close to furniture, and the dock handles emptying and mop care with minimal babysitting. For a first robot in a hard-floor apartment, it’s the easiest “set it and forget it” option Imo.

If you’re upgrading from an old S4 Max and dealing with long/short hair, rugs with lips, bath mats, and desk legs, you’re not really splitting hairs — there’s a genuine convenience jump once you move into the $500+ tier with a full self-cleaning dock. A sub-$400 option like the Dreame L40 Ultra CE will absolutely be a solid performance upgrade with better suction, lidar mapping, and decent mopping, but you’ll still be emptying bins often, rinsing mop pads, and detangling hair regularly — so it feels more like an “S4 Max++” than a lifestyle change. Once you step into something like the Roborock Q Revo line or newer higher-end Eureka models, the auto dust emptying, auto mop washing + hot air drying, better anti-tangle brush systems, and proper mop lifting on carpets make a noticeable day-to-day difference because you interact with the robot way less (think every couple of weeks instead of every few days). The multi-function docks sound optional until you use one — then you realize not having to manually wash smelly mop pads or deal with dirty water streaking is what really makes it feel hands-off.

I have the dream l40 ultra ce (1 subvariant lower than ae).  To be honest it kinda struggles with all sorts of carpets (thin carpets lesso so, but not great for thick carpets and stress mats). It either pushes them aside which is annoying since I need to move it back or it gets stuck on them. 

There is new L40 ultra ver 2 without mop problem (like on mine) and more suction. It is also cheaper. There is new L50 ultra also available.

Honestly, just boring.... I am waiting new roborock rover with legs. Probably second gen when bugs are sorted out. X60 was not necesary. Maybe better customer support and firmware for older models. (I have L40 Ultra just to be clear, not X50)...

Paid €1280 in January for the L40. After just 500 sqm of cleaning, I’ve been waiting for over a month now for it to be returned, and I still don’t know if they’ll fix the mop attachment issue. Now it’s selling for €500. I won’t be buying anything from Dreame again for a while. Honestly, I’m much closer to just hiring a full-time maid from the Philippines — and that would cost me around €700–800 per month. My wife still objects, though.

I am using gen2 and it is working fine, i thought of getting pro ultra, however i read somewhere it uses hot water only for cleaning the mop pads and not for mopping, Also gen2 was launched this year.

I dont think so at all that its a downgrade, gen 2 does use hot air for drying. For rgb camera, i was specifically  avoiding the robo vaccums with that feature due to privacy concerns. Also i would suggest to wait till black friday deals. 

I have been using from past 6 months, pretty happy with the product.  I did ordered tri cut brush for better hair vaccuming.

L40 is the best at obstacle avoidance I think The problem is how much do you value mopping because the eufy e28/25 seems to do the best there. And I think all flagships robots will likely switch to their roller style mops in the future because it's just more sanitary to clean the mop as you go. Narwal flow seems like it'll be better the eufy e28/25 when it releases but the price also seems too high That said, e28 seems to perform worse at object avoidance.