Dreame - L40 Ultra Gen 2

Just noticed the Dreame L40 Ultra Gen2. Seems to be better than the L40s Ultra.

Here’s the clean breakdown: * **L40 Ultra Gen 2** Think of this as a **refined base model**. Same general L40 platform, but with incremental upgrades like better suction tuning, some dock improvements, and quieter/more efficient operation. It’s about polish and stability, not new sensing tech. * **L40S Ultra** This one leans into **feature upgrades** instead: better mop handling, nicer dock behavior, and (region-dependent) enhanced obstacle avoidance. In some regions it *looks* more advanced than Gen 2, but it’s not universally true everywhere. So it’s not strictly “Gen 2 is better than S” or vice versa. More like: * **Gen 2 = newer revision, smoother experience** * **S = feature-bumped variant of the original** And of course, to make it more fun, **regional differences apply**, so Gen 2 in one market may overlap or even surpass an S model in another. You’re absolutely right though — this is exactly why people get lost. Same base name, three different upgrade paths, zero clear hierarchy unless you dig into specs.

Good breakdown — you’re actually pretty close already. Quick version: * The **L40 Ultra** has full mop lifting *and* mop parking (it can drop the mops off at the base station while doing vacuum-only work, so it's not dragging wet pads around on carpet). That’s basically the main feature the **MOVA P10 Pro Ultra** leaves out to hit the lower price point. * Suction power, water heating, and station functions are otherwise very similar between both. The P10 Pro Ultra is kind of Dreame’s "budget premium" — similar hardware, fewer bells and whistles. * For parts: most of the consumables (bags, rollers, brushes, filters) are interchangeable across the L10s Ultra, L40 Ultra, and MOVA P10 series. Always double-check your specific model when buying bags but you're mostly good. * In simple terms: L40 = better for mixed flooring + carpet. MOVA P10 = great deal if you’re mostly hard floors and don’t need full mop parking. Hope that helps — happy to answer if you’re still debating which one to go for!

**TL;DR:** * **L40 Ultra ($470):** Best bang-for-buck, handles hardwood + carpet fine, but may need a recharge for 3,700 sq ft. * **L50 Ultra ($1,099):** Stronger suction, smarter dock, climbs higher thresholds, longer runtime. 👉 If budget matters, grab the **L40 Ultra**. If you want *maximum convenience + futureproofing*, go **L50 Ultra**.

If you’re mostly on hardwood with just a couple of small door-way rugs, you don’t need the top-of-the-line X50 — any of Dreame’s mid-range models will handle that mix with ease. Here’s what I’d suggest: 1. **L40 Ultra** * **Why**: Great all-in-one suction + mop for hard floors, auto-empty dock, reliable 3D obstacle avoidance. * **Rugs**: It’ll detect and boost on those small mats (just mark them as “carpet” in the app so it doesn’t try to mop them). * **Price**: Falls in the sweet-spot for performance vs cost. 2. **L40S Ultra** * **Why**: Same core as the L40 Ultra but adds hot-water mop wash and onboard detergent module. * **Bonus**: If you want a deeper floor-wash every so often, this makes it effortless. 3. **X40 Ultra** (only if…) * You really care about the AI-camera obstacle avoidance (for cluttered homes, pet accidents, cables, etc.). * Otherwise you’ll be over-paying for a camera you won’t need on mostly open, hard-floor spaces. **What to do in the app**: * **Room setup**: Label your rugs as “carpet” so the bot knows to vacuum only. * **Cleaning sequence**: Create a two-step routine—first vacuum (Max), then mop—so you don’t mop over loose debris. That combo will give you spotless hardwood and tidy little rugs without the premium of the flagship models.

You're doing all the right homework here — and your English is excellent, no worries there. Between the L40 Ultra and the Qrevo Curv 5A1, you’re right that the L40 has stronger features on paper: auto mop pad removal, detergent tank, brush lifting, and usually great navigation. The Roborock Curv wins on suction and build reputation, but at a steep price. That said, if *returning isn't an option* in your situation, Roborock's proven track record and reliability might be the safer bet long-term. Dreame has made huge strides, but quality control can be hit-or-miss depending on the model and region — and if you get unlucky, you’d be stuck. If your floors are mostly hard and you value automation and features over suction power, the L40 Ultra might still be worth it. But if durability and support matter most, Roborock is probably the safer investment. Tough choice — just depends which risk feels more manageable.

For €500–600 you’re right in the sweet spot for Dreame’s “medium-range” lineup. The **L40 Ultra** is usually the best bang for the buck — strong suction, mop lift, and self-washing so you don’t have to babysit it. Works great in homes with pets (fur + litter dust). If you’ve got lots of carpet, though, the **X30 Ultra** is worth a look if you catch it on sale — better brush system + stronger edge cleaning. But for mostly hard floors, L40 Ultra is usually the smarter buy in your budget.

Yep you’ve already got one of the most balanced bots Dreame has made. The pop-out edge brush on the newer models does help on baseboards and chair legs, but it’s not game-changing unless edges are your #1 complaint. Suction numbers look wild on paper, but in real life the jump isn’t double the clean—it’s more about handling heavy rugs and deeper pile. Twin rollers are a bit nicer if you’ve got pets that shed a ton, otherwise your single rubber roller is fine. Hot water mop washing does leave pads fresher, but for day-to-day floors cold water isn’t holding you back. If you’re happy now, I’d ride the L10s a while longer. The “worth it” upgrades really only show up if you’ve got tricky rugs, a lot of pet hair, or you want every edge spotless.

Honestly, the L10s Ultra Gen 2 still holds up really well against the newer models — most of the upgrades are more about refinement than night-and-day differences. A few notes: * **Edge cleaning brush**: The pop-out brush on the L40/X40 does help in certain layouts, but it’s not magic. If your home has lots of obstacles and shorter wall runs, you’ll still see some misses. * **Suction**: The jump from \~11kPa to \~22kPa sounds massive, but in everyday cleaning the improvement is more modest — especially on hard floors where the L10s already does fine. It’s most noticeable on thicker carpets. * **Brushes**: Twin rollers are genuinely helpful for pets. They grab more hair and are less prone to tangles compared to the single roller, so that’s the biggest dog-owner benefit. * **Hot water washing**: Nice to have, but not a deal-breaker. It keeps mop pads fresher and helps with greasy messes, but cold wash + detergent tablets still does a solid job. If your L10s is already keeping up with your home, you’re not missing anything critical. The upgrade is worth it mostly if you want **less hair hassle** or if you have lots of carpet where stronger suction pays off. Otherwise, you’re in a good spot sticking with the L10s.

I lean slightly toward the Dreame L40 Ultra CE. The mop‑extension + side-brush really give it an edge (“corner cleaning” is often a pain point), and the strong suction is a big plus for real-world messes (especially in a busy home). The bigger dock is a trade-off, but probably worth it for how hands-off it can be. If you have some specific needs, [this comparison table ](https://technoranks.com/compare-products/?compareids=2389,1961)might help.

I think most people in this subreddit would agree that the key things in a robot vacuum are solid hard-floor cleaning, reliable pet-hair pickup, and predictable navigation. In my experience, the Roborock CurvX and Dreame L40 Ultra handle edges, thresholds, and obstacles well and don’t need much babysitting. For multi-floor or pet homes, they’re just much less frustrating day-to-day than most other models. for someone with more specific needs, [this comparison table](https://technoranks.com/compare-products/?compareids=2392,1907) might help.

For your setup, I’d go for [Dreame L40 Ultra](https://www.reddit.com/r/VacuumsTips/comments/1q33e0d/robot_vacuums_that_actually_make_sense_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). It’s reliable, avoids obstacles well, cleans close to furniture, and the dock handles emptying and mop care with minimal babysitting. For a first robot in a hard-floor apartment, it’s the easiest “set it and forget it” option Imo.

I have the dream l40 ultra ce (1 subvariant lower than ae).  To be honest it kinda struggles with all sorts of carpets (thin carpets lesso so, but not great for thick carpets and stress mats). It either pushes them aside which is annoying since I need to move it back or it gets stuck on them. 

There is new L40 ultra ver 2 without mop problem (like on mine) and more suction. It is also cheaper. There is new L50 ultra also available.

Paid €1280 in January for the L40. After just 500 sqm of cleaning, I’ve been waiting for over a month now for it to be returned, and I still don’t know if they’ll fix the mop attachment issue. Now it’s selling for €500. I won’t be buying anything from Dreame again for a while. Honestly, I’m much closer to just hiring a full-time maid from the Philippines — and that would cost me around €700–800 per month. My wife still objects, though.

It would have to be the Dreame Ultra Gen 2. £300 at Costco UK. No brainer at that price

Dreame gen2 is better ;)

I own the Dreame l40 ultra which is basically the same as the Mova p10 pro. It’s ok with pet fur on carpet but it definitely leaves a good amount behind. I just bought the Mova z60 for that very reason (in addition to its improved mopping) and it does a much better job. Also The v50 is a noticeable upgrade from the p10 pro. If you have the money or just want the best, I would stretch it.

Dreame l40 ultra or Mova p10 pro ultra are solid and can often be found on sale for around $500. They are basically the same with the main difference being that the l40 can drop its mop pads at its base station. Don’t know what your budget is but at that value it is incredibly hard to beat. Keep an eye out on Amazon they should at the very least be back on sale on prime day.

The l40 ultra is probably the best value right now when on sale at the $500 price point. And honestly If you concern yourself with every negative review you will never buy a robot vacuum. None are perfect and you’ll find varying opinions on even the ones people consider the best. And you nailed it with your comment that if people have issues, they are more likely to go online and complain about it than they are to praise it when their device works flawlessly.

Well said. I’ve tried a few of the pricier ones and just bought a Dreame l40 ultra as my “budget” option to compare. While I think the pricier ones are a bit better in performance (in some ways, not all) it just feels silly spending $800+ on a machine whose features will be dated in just a couple years. I mean just take the Dreame x40 ultra for example. Last year they sold new at $1900. Now you can get one for around $500. And You cannot beat the value of the l40 ultra or Mova p10 pro ultra. I think it’s the perfect robot for most peoples needs.

I tried both the T80 Omni and eufy e28. You can check my last post for a comparison. I also have been using the Dreame l40 ultra. I have a dog that sheds an insane amount and all of these vacuums have no problem picking up his fur. So mopping is really where you’re gonna see the most differences. Considering the points you made about the types of messes in your place, you may find a roller mop would be a bit more beneficial for you. It’s better at cleaning up stains and spills. Now if you generally have clean floors, I don’t think you’d see a noticeable difference between a roller and a spinning mop, especially if you run it nightly. That is how my house is and the dirty water in my T80 is just as dirty in my l40 ultra. You could also check out the mova z50 or v50. I think the z50 seems to be one of the best mopping performers rn but unfortunately not available in my country. However I do have a v50 coming this week as I want to give that one a try too. I hear really good things.

I’m really interested in this one. I actually have the v50 showing up Monday but I’m already thinking of keeping it boxed and sending it back because I have been using a Dreame l40 ultra that I’ve been pretty impressed with and while I’m sure the v50 is better, will I think it’s $500 better when it’s just me and my dog in a 1 bed apartment with mostly hard floors? Probably not. I also had the e28 myself and share some of your complaints so I sent it back. I know a lot of people are sold on the idea of roller mops over spinning mops but after being able to test both, I definitely agree that a good spinning mop is better than a subpar roller mop. And tbh, unless you have a lot of spills or overly stained/dirty floors, you’re really not going to see much of a difference in performance between a roller and spin mop. I’ve had the eufy e28, ecovacs t80 Omni and they both returned the same amount of dirty water as the l40 ultra did.

I tried both of these as well. I wrote a comparison in my most recent post and agree with your points. I ended up buying the Dreame l40 ultra as a “budget” option and I think I’m going to keep that one. Sure the T80 Omni does some things better but imo not $400 better. And at the rate the tech is moving, these things will be outdated in just a couple years. So I figured I’ll stick with one that does a good job instead of dropping 2x-3x on one that gives me marginal performance improvements. Then I can buy another mid range robot in a couple years when the tech is better and end up spending on 2 what I would have on 1 premium robot.

Both. My dog sheds an insane amount and it does a good job at picking it up, especially on hard floor. It’s not perfect on the couple rugs I have but enough where instead of vacuuming Manually daily, I only have to do it once every 1-2 weeks. I just bought the tri-cut brush for it too which supposedly helps with hair and pet fur. The mova p10 pro ultra is still [on sale for $499](https://www.amazon.com/MOVA-P10-Pro-Ultra-360%C2%B0Obstacle/dp/B0DGR1VDTB) too which is basically the same as the l40 ultra.

I don’t think there are any mop rollers out rn that are worth buying over some of the better spinning mops. IF you’re adamant on sticking to rollers, I would wait for some of the newer options to release if you can. But also, I think roller mops are seriously overhyped. Don’t get me wrong, they are better at some things like cleaning up spills or excessive stains. But if you run it nightly and don’t have overly dirty floors, you’re not gonna notice much difference vs a spinning mop machine. As for alternative recs that aren’t rollers, people seem to like the Mova v50 and Roborock Saros 10r. I’ve personally been using the Dreame l40 ultra and I’m happy with it after trying the ecovacs T80 Omni and eufy e28 and not liking them all that much.

FWIW I always thought it was gimmicky until I bought a good one. Now I wondered why I didn’t buy it a long time ago. Especially with modern features like self emptying dust bins and water. Are you in the US? Idk if this is in your budget range but you should check out the mova p10 pro ultra or dreame l40 ultra. They are probably the best value out there for under $500.

I’ve also been testing these 2 side by side. I also agree that the T80 Omni does a better job. However, I still don’t think it’s good enough for me to want to keep it. And I especially don’t trust ecovacs as a brand. While it works good now, it’s been said over and over that reliability is not ecovacs strong suit. I do believe roller mops are better performers but there are more options right on the horizon so I think it’s worth waiting if you don’t have an immediate need to buy one and are adamant on getting one with a roller mop. My next test is to determine if a great spinning mop is better than a subpar roller mop. So I bought the mova v50 and dreame x40 and will make a post on my experience after spending some time with it.

The x40 that I bought was refurbished and had wonky navigation so I sent it back, but bought a new l40 ultra and I really like it. The navigation is pretty good and object avoidance has been pretty solid too. Is it perfect? No. And the T80 is probably still a bit better at mopping. But it was good enough for me to realize that it wasn’t worth paying the extra money for the T80 or e28. So both of them got sent back and I kept the l40 ultra. As for the Mova v50, I have it sitting in its box still in my house as I decided I’m going to send it back for the fact that I don’t feel it’s worth me spending twice the price as the l40 ultra for what is likely marginal performance gains. Don’t get me wrong I am sure it is better, but I’ve come to the conclusion that the robot vac tech is just moving so quickly that spending money on a premium robot whose features will be dated in just a couple years wasn’t a good idea. So I’m happy with the performance of the l40 ultra and will be keeping that one.

I was between these 2 and based on reviews it seems the z60 is the better performer (and has less issues) so that’s the one I went with. Only had it for a couple days but it’s a noticeable upgrade from the l40 ultra I was using.

Absolutely. I have a chow chow mix that sheds an insane amount. I kinda had just accepted the fact that there would always be tumbleweeds of dog fur everywhere and have lived with it for years. Always thought robot vacs were a gimmick until I tried one.they absolutely work. It picks up 99% of my dogs fur and I run it daily. I was kicking myself for not investing sooner. Check out the mova p10 pro ultra or the dreame l40 ultra. These are the most recommended in that price range. Very hard to beat that value for the features and performance it comes with at that price.

I had bought a dreame l40 ultra which people rave about here. I think it’s good for the price but it won’t replace manual mopping. I hadn’t manually mopped my place in the 2 months I had it as I was running the robot mop daily. Tbh I was kinda shocked how dirty my floors were still. I have the same kind of vinyl plank flooring myself. Also the vacuuming isn’t so great for dog fur on carpets if that applies to you. My dog sheds like crazy too and the robot does do an excellent job on hard floors but it lacks on carpets or rugs. I think it’s good for the price, but if you are focusing strictly on mopping, get a roller or track mop. Narwal flow, dreame aqua 10 pro, Mova z60, Eufy s1 pro are all good options. Eufy s2 pro could be out soon too.

Consider the l40 ultra. I love mine!

I bought 3: eufy e28, ecovacs T80 Omni and Dreame l40 ultra. The e28 was already returned. I’m on the fence about whether to keep the T80 or l40 but I’m leaning towards the l40. While I do think the T80 is a bit better, I don’t think it’s $400 better and I’m happy with the l40’s performance, especially for the price.

Mova p10 pro should be <$500 on October prime day. I have the dreame version of it (l40 ultra) and have been using it for the past 3 months. It’s a solid performer but I wouldn’t say carpet suction is the best for pet fur (I have a dog that sheds an insane amount) but hard floor vacuuming picks up pretty much everything. Mopping is good if you have non textured flooring, but same can be said for most spin mops. I do think it is the best you’ll get in the price range when on sale <$500 and is often at the top of best rated robot vacuum lists. Edit: [it’s $474 at Walmart rn.](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mova-P10-Pro-Ultra-Robot-Vacuum-Mop-Floor-Cleaning-Solution-13-000Pa-Suction-140-F-Hot-Water-Auto-Washing-Drying-Dual-Spinning-Extenable-Mop-360-Obst/17443573732?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=102786031&gclsrc=aw.ds&&adid=2222222222817443573732_102786031_185227333878_22924454124&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=770825223027&wl4=pla-2458810826114&wl5=9061184&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=5584646462&wl11=online&wl12=17443573732_102786031&veh=sem&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22924454124&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIqOpzSopGcYzavSluimW2dak&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0Y3HBhCxARIsAN7931Uq2jQNpTfvPO1Wf2o2fqak7eJwJtPXi6dsRW2cOnJtxTBddrh4d0IaAnT6EALw_wcB)

Probably not what you want to hear but the 400 dollar l40ultra we got on black friday is stellar.

I have a L40 ultra ( very similar) , not even close to how ours behaves. Something’s wrong

I’ve tested the narwal flow before, currently running a Dreame L40S Pro Ultra, an EU upgraded L40 Ultra + L40 Ultra AE basically. I wasn’t too satisfied with the Flow but the Dreame does a great job. It has the extending side brush and gets into corners and along the base board really well. What model are you running?

L40 ultra is a great robot. Carpet will always be difficult but it will do its job, but don’t expect it to clean like a cord vacuum. You could also think about the L40 ultra **AE** version. Except for the extending side brush for vacuuming, it’s functionally the same. All L40 have great mopping and vacuum performance on hard floor.