Inov8 - TRAILROC 285

VJ Maxx2 is my go-to general purpose trail shoe. I used to run in Roclite 285’s and 243’s back in the day. Maxx2 is a similar type shoe, but more modern. Edit: the midsole of the Maxx2 is way more substantial than a Roclite 243, but that isn’t saying much as that was one of the most minimal shoes I’ve ever come across.

>they’ve rapidly gone downhill In what ways? And which shoes maybe. I consider myself a devout fan of them and haven't heard anything negative. I've had nearly 10 pair of Roclite 285s over the years and across three or four generations and they seem to get better in modest ways, while still being true to what I liked about the original. I've only owned a couple other models though, so can't comment on those. Partner recently bought Parklites and likes them a lot.

I used to be a big fan of inov-8, but now I rarely consider them when getting new shoes. The reason is that their changes in lineups and specific models are rarely for the better. Many of their old models were very good and very different from other brands and they would work well even to this day. The grip, fit and durability of for example original Roclites or Trailrocs was extremely good. The new models are just not as good.

Try wide inov8. I have the same feet as you, only inov8 fits, and vivo’s

I started noticing this a couple years ago and planned accordingly. For me I have huge feet and it's hard to find good shoes. For those in my situation and like a low drop and low rise, look into Inov-8. I've only bought these shoes since early '23 and I hope they never change.

Topo mtn racer has better grip. Inov8 has better grip also; Trailfly for hard trails and Mudfly for wet/mud.

Inov8s are the answer.

I’ve been wearing Inov-8s for 15+ years for trail and fell running and even moved to them for XC races when achilles injuries meant I could no longer wear spikes. Always done the job for me, reasonable value and regularly available with chunky discounts online.

Inov-8 has a bunch of models in a wide size now. Even the older models I use have a lot of room for my toes. Durability is fine I think, compared to what I read about Altras.

I'd say yes (not having used the latest models personally though). I find mine very comfortable.

I can also confirm the durability of Inov-8s!

Don’t know of any places that offer that kind of support but you could try inov8. They’re outsoles are supposed to be tough. The ones I’ve used fell apart before the sole showed any wear. They’re sizing isn’t very consistent though so worth trying in a shop if you can find them.