Saucony - Peregrine 16 GTX

You should try the Peregrine 16. It's back to roots for me, plus Vibram and feels slightly like Xodus

There are no trail shoes with a pronation-support system. Such system is counterproductive on an uneven trail and can cause problems and injuries. I am running Adrenaline and Glycerine GTS as my road shoes and have x-bionic, dynafit and saucony Peregrines as my trail running shoes. X-bionic and dynafit are relatively stable, I use a special insole in Peregrines (not from orthopedics)

LaSportiva Prodigio Pro for long runs and races Brooks Ghost Trail for base and recovery runs (so far only 100km in them) Saucony Peregrines (already 850km, will be retired this week most probably)

Saucony peregrine 16 has a 4mm drop but toe box has more room, almost as much room as my Altra lone peak.

The Peregrine 16 has a couple slight differences from earlier versions, the main one being that it now has Vibram Megagrip. Since it sounds like outsole is your biggest durability concern it might be worth reading reviews of other shoes with this outsole since there are plenty of them (Hoka Speedgoat, Nike Zegama 2, Nnormal models, etc.). AFAIK, the material on Vibram Megagrip outsoles are essentially the same (lug depth and design might differ slightly) so they should be similar. Unfortunately most "professional" shoe reviewers are going through so many shoes they rarely get more than a hundred miles on their shoes so you may be better off looking up Reddit reviews. With that said, I'd be curious what your expectations are for longevity? Mid-sole essentially always dies first for me for trail shoes (all shoes really). I have retired shoes that lead rough lives and have been used extensively for casual walking/hiking and the outsole is worn but would still be completely fine for running in. You may have different results if you run on really abrasive surfaces though (concrete, sandstone, etc.).

The 16 is a nice update as well. Slightly firmer but more energy return and Vibrant Mega grip.

Saucony Ride TR is a Saucony Rude designed for light trails. If you want to get into more complicated terrain. Saucony Peregrine for more of a trail all a rounder. Can get Peregrine 15 on clearance right now; though 16 comes with a major outsole upgrade to Vibram

12 + 13 were utter garbage when they were new let alone as 3 year old new stock. 15 was back to being great and the 16 is looking similar.

The 16s are like the 15s. A touch more midsole (like everything these days) and Vibram mega grip are the main differences.

I'm a bit obsessive about having good running shoes to golf in, coming from a track and cross country background (along with all the foot and ankle damage those did, plus about 35 years worth of wear since). Here's what I've found: The only segment of shoes I've found fits the bill are ultra-marathon trail runners. From the current crop, 2 stand out as having features that are not only good for running, but also not detrimental to disc golf, or even potentially risking injury. The Hoka Speedgoat 7, and the Saucony Peregrine 16. Both brands also have other options, like the Mafate and Xodus models, but all of those in their current lineups have added a significant amount of stack height, and with it heel rocker (which at a taller stack height means you'll be pivoting on a curved part of your shoe - which is a significant risk for rolled ankles). There are a lot of other trail runners, but I've tried pretty much all of them, and as a runner - especially if you've already got problematic feet, they all have downsides that put them out of the running, by my estimation. Those two models are my short list for a purchase for this season.

Good to know they're both good choices! How much has the Speedgoat softened, as you've owned it? I wasn't a big fan of the cushion on the Speedgoat 6 - it was more firm out of the box than I would've liked. Because I've got such badly abused feet, I didn't buy a pear to see how they break in. I've preferred the midsole cushioning in Saucony shoes, in addition to the tread being nice. The Peregrine 15 didn't have as durable of tread as my Xodus 2 Ultras (which were basically a more plush Peregrine 15 with a rock plate, and better Vibram), but they were good enough for at least a season - which is about as long as any shoe in that class is going to last, with how far from their intended use disc golf is... Unless I get to try them both on in the same store, it's probably going to be the Peregrine I go with this year.

I have both the Hoka and Saucony shoes you describe. I like them both. The tread Saucony are a bit better for walking down slippery hills, but both work well and keep my feet dry.

They finally listened to us and put vibram on the peregrine 16!!

Peregrine 15 and up for me. The 16 has a vibram megagrip outsole, so it should be a lot better than previous versions on damp rocks/bridges. The 12s were decent, the 13's were terrible.

As long as they keep making the peregrine as a LOW STACK trail shoe, I will keep buying it.

NB rebel v5 for the roads, Saucony peregrine for daily trails, and Topo ultraventure for long runs/races

5'11 207 lb beefy boi trail runner here.. I do most my training and daily miles in saucony peregrine's. The midsole is firm-ish and really lasts a long while compared to other shoes I've tried.

I'm only speaking for myself here, but I prefer low stack shoes (peregrines, sense rides, lone peaks)

While not as cushioned, I went from sg5 to saucony peregrine. They have been my daily miles shoe for a while now, and I'm excited for the new model with a vibram megagrip outsole to release.

Hi, M/41/UK also just got into trail running recently. I was concerned about slipping on wet grass and mud but also needing something which could cope with tarmac sections in between trails. Checked out loads and tried a few on. Ended up getting Saucony Peregrine 16 - couldn’t be happier. Tested them out on a forest trail in damp conditions, up and down hills, didn’t slip once, amazing grip, a bit of cushioning but not so much they feel unstable, just very confidence inspiring, would 100% recommend