Miele - Compact C2 Cat & Dog PowerLine SDBE4

Throwing out an alternative option; A Miele Dog & Cat cylinder vac. I've had mine for 12 years, and works as good now as day one. Designed for carpet and hard flooring specifically. Plenty of refurbished ones on eBay that have been fully cleaned, for a fraction of the price of a new one. Though, whatever you pick, wait til Black Friday!

Had a cordless shark and it was crap. Replaced with the Miele C2 (cat and dog version) and I have never had a hoover like it. It is fantastic. I would rate it higher than the Henry and as it is a bit smaller it gets caught up a bit less and easier getting up and down stairs. For hoover bags just buy the cheaper Amazon equivalent. But if it must be out of those 2 I would go with hazza.

Went from a shark cordless to a Miele C2 and never looked back.

At first I was like nah I'm not paying for bags every 5 minutes bla bla bla... Amazon do an exact replica for a fraction of the cost. And the suction is just constant. The shark needed dismantling every 7 minutes to unclog something or other and I was constantly wondering if it was always like this or has it gotten worse. If the Miele breaks for any reason, I'll be replacing it with another one.

With the Miele C2 (alot less than 600 quid) you push the button on the back and the cord wraps up for you. Just putting it out there

Miele compact C2 cat & dog. Around $400 when it's on special at briscoes but my god it's worth it. Have been through too many cheapy and not so cheap bagless, including Dyson and I wont do it again.

Why the need for two vacuums though? What need will a stick vacuum fill? Miele C2 cat and dog, $500 from briscoes picks up every last bit of pet hair out of the carpet and is very quiet. Bagless vacuums just spread dust and allergens all over the show.

I'm joking haha. I have a miele c3 currently, and also have had the older version of what the c2 became, as well as an electrolux. I am very much not a fan of disposable dysons or sharks 😂

No worries, and good luck with whichever you choose. If I might just add a couple more notes, hopefully not to confuse but to assist! I've owned a Miele (Compact C2) for 9 years now and have absolutely loved having a variable speed motor, as would come with the C3. I use my vacuum for lots of functions such as dusting, upholstery, curtains, hard floors, carpets etc...having a variable speed motor is invaluable imo for this to ensure the correct amount of suction. Henry is 1 speed, though it does have a suction relief valve on the handle, which is a cruder way of adjusting the suction at the nozzle, won't offer as much variation but would still probably be ok. The turbo head that comes with the Miele C3 cat and dog is generally considered one of the best I believe. I have its predecessor and it works superbly on my carpet. My understanding is that the Henry turbo head is more likely to slow down. However on short pile it should probably be ok. I'm admittedly biased towards Miele because I own one and have been very happy with it, but whichever choice you make I'm sure you'll be pleased. Numatic are a British company who manufacture here so you'll also have that feel good element of buying British if you go for Henry and if that matters to you!

The assertion that they "got rid of the pre motor filter" is just...wrong though? The S1 and M1 use the same fabric type pre motor filter that has been used in the C series. The L1 has admittedly got rid of that in favour of a mesh, but it's wrong to say they've all lost the pre motor filter. Also it's only the L1 that has the display. If you don't like/want/need it, the M1 and S1 are available. The new bags fix the issue that was there with the C series of people not seating the bag properly when closing the bag compartment. And really why would anyone want to be using generic third party bags anyway when you've invested in a premium vacuum? I bought some once for my C2 compact and they were crap compared to the official Miele bags. Not saying that Miele are beyond criticism at all, but I think it's fair to actually be reasonable with ones criticism. This having been said when my C2 dies I'll be getting a Sebo because I would like a powered head.

You will need an electric powered brush model if you have carpet. We bought a Miele canister model from Costco and it's a beast. r/vacuumcleaners is where you should be heading next. Also if you have a local vacuum repair shop - go there and they will hook you up as well. They aren't trying to push unreliable not great value big name brands like Dyson and might have refurbished options within your budget. They rely on their reputation to stay in business (unlike big box stores)

>The Miele with the powered brush is like 900+.. [You can get a C2 canister version at Costco for $700 CAD ($500)](https://www.costco.ca/miele-compact-c2-cat-%2526-dog-canister-vacuum.product.100568711.html). For low-medium pile carpet, it's a great option and should last a decade+ with proper care regular servicing. Also see comment above about visiting a vacuum repair shop to see what they have for refurbished models. You do not have to purchase something new for it to last a long time.

Same, getting a miele bag vac was such a gamechanger.

Go miele. You won't go back. We have a miele c2 and I've never experienced a more powerful, capable vacuum. Also since it's a bag vac it's incredibly easy to repair. Stay away from the more common brands like Dyson, vax, and shark. They're all different flavours of meh. Henry is fine but not great for doing your whole house, they're very heavy and unwieldy.

TL;DR: go to a Miele dealer (use their website to find one) buy the C3 homecare+ for full home cleaning, demote the Dyson to quick jobs, never look back. If you have gen5 detect money (and interest) buy the vacuum that made Dyson increase their filtration standard: a Miele. I thought it was funny Dyson did this as it retroactively pulled the facade off of their previous marketing. For the best performance on hard floors you'll want a machine with their parquet twister attachment, it's what made me fall in love with Mieles in middle school. Currently it works like a dream for my kitty and her ways. (And that original one still works for my parents 17 years later). Technically Mieles cheapest machine, the c1 classic, functions just as well on hard floors when using the same tool as their most expensive machine, the c3 brilliant. They have the same motor, use the same bags, and have the same filter media, but the c3s are MUCH quieter, fully sealed, have bigger bag compartments, and store their tools onboard. The c2 models are a happy in between. They're fully sealed, are quieter but not as quiet as the c3, and also have the onboard tools. Contemporary c2s are made in China with German motors. They're just as well built as the German plastic machines. Technically they're better built because Miele innovated on the s5000 shell which became the c2. Having taken apart both, the c2s construction is more like a brilliant than the c1 classic. As of right now, only Mieles c3s are built completely in Germany. All their bagged models use German made motors but the remainder are formed in China. All the bagless models are completely made in China. No knock against Chinese manufacturing, it's excellent obviously, but that's the T with Mieles current production chain for vacuums. I like my first gen triflex even. Because your budget is $600 (medium-high) and you have carpets, that complicates my recommendation: If you're buying a machine you should buy the one that fully encapsulates your use and use it how you like. Don't purposefully buy something that does less when you can use more, and you can afford more. No matter what you buy it'll outlive and outperform the gen 5. A straight suction Miele might even marginally outperform it on your carpets... Then, you have the Dyson Gen 5 vs the v12/15 (which tells me you care about "the best", technology, and convenience physical constraints be damned) which points me to recommend you Mieles top of line canisters: the c3 electro models (Kona, Marin, Brilliant/ homecare, homecare e, homecare +). They come standard with the electro carpet brush and the parquet twister, as well as the HEPA filter. The Marin adds some longevity and QOL electronics like a filter life timer, parking shutoff switch, and auto suction as well as the seb236, Mieles low profile and led-lit carpet brush. The Brilliant, the one I think you should get, has what the Marin has plus fingertip controls & a display. This makes switching surfaces and tools on the fly so much easier. It also kinda obviates the parking switch. You should buy them from a vacuum store, miele dealer, to get the best deal and get the homecare models with the longer warranty and more tools. From a dealer, you can likely get the Kona for $850, Marin for $1100, and brilliant for $1500, but you might have a harder time finding that brilliant deal as it kinda pads the coffers. Like I said, the c1 classic and a parquet twister will get you the same clean, but it's time to demote the Dyson and get a real vacuum as your primary. The Dyson can be used for quick runs and it'll thank you for it (by living longer than 5). Your carpets will also likely thank you for it. Ik I blew past your budget, but it really seems like you can afford it so 🤷🏾‍♂️ Sebos have better warranties, and some like them better, but they're marginally louder, less powerful, and filter less well than a Miele. And when comparing to a c3, Mieles bags & filters are cheaper in their allergy bundle. Mieles also have a better feel in hand... Which is the whole point imo. You can likely try a Sebo wherever you go to buy that Miele homecare+ 😘 so make sure to try it out too. I think Mieles parquet twister and seb236 are better than sebos articulating floor tool or et1. But that's my opinion. The fully in price recommendation for hard floors would the c3 gala or the c2 hard floor. Marginally in budget but all inclusive machine would be the c1 centennial (if you can find it for $650 and buy the parquet twister). Another option, but a little stretch is the c1 homecare with electro brush (only available from Miele dealers). Even an abused Miele will last a decade. Get the nicest one you can afford, take care of it, and have a perfectly clean home for more than 20 years. No joke. Also, your Dyson is leaving stuff in the carpets that an electro Miele will capture. Your first bag will fill fast (as does everyone's unless they already had a Miele/Sebo).

A Kenmore canister would easily fall under your budget and have a lot of the ergonomic features you need, like lightweight, cord reel, foot pedals, and fingertip controls. Tbh any canister these days have foot pedals and cord rewinds. I'm a Miele fan, but sebos are a better value. If you can get the Sebo k3 from a dealer (usually for under $700) that would be your best bet. You'd use your dominant hand to maneuver the floor head while using your non dominant to pull at the hose to reposition the canister as you go. If you don't have two hands at your disposal pulling the canister and working in sections while surrounding the canister also works. Bonus points if your place is the perfect size for the canister to use only one plug centrally. These canisters tend to have less weight in hand than even stick models (other than the upright style stick models). These canisters will also last 20 years, with each bag filling up every 3-9 months depending on if you have pets and how many people you have at home. Bagless vacuums require deep cleaning and filter maintenance that will aggravate allergies with the aerosolization of fine dust. with bagged models, you simply toss and replace the bag every few months, and replace the filter every 4ish bags (which works out to 2-3 years for a smaller home/family). Sure it's a disposable, but they're made from recycled fibers already and it's a better prospect than buying a subpar machine every few years. It is also just more hygienic. And are the only option for folks with the worst allergies. Sebos work excellently and have good filtration, however Mieles, with their HEPA filter do filter slightly better and function better and more quietly, however they are more expensive. Any Miele with the parquet twister floor tool and seb217 would be right for you. I recommend buying it from a dealer as you can mix and match the floor heads. From a dealer you can get the c3 Kona with the seb217 (instead of the 228 bc it's lighter) for under $850 on sale, and there are sales. You might be able to get the c1 homecare model for cheaper, so ask about that. The cat & dog model is cheaper but you'll want the HEPA filter. Also Miele bags & filters are cheaper than sebos, even if youre using Miele HEPA with the full size machines. Sebo parts are only sold by dealers and they're very expenny. The Miele allergy pack is 8 bags and a heap filter for $55 (~retail for the Miele HEPA or Sebo filters alone). Other than that, I'd say lookout on the used marketplaces for good deals. I got my $1800 Miele for $300, so it's possible. Good luck.

I got a Miele C2 in ~2017 after reading all his AMA’s. Now I’m reminded I need to get it tuned-up for maintenance. The suction is strong as ever but the only downside is buying the vacuum bags which became a pain after I got a hairy dog.

I tried to save a few bucks by getting Amazon dupe cheaper bags and of course, it easily overfilled and exploded the dirt inside the vacuum cleaner. TLDR: buy Miele bags only

Agreed with the C1 cat and dog rec (it can do your carpets very well) but I wouldn’t buy from Amazon and I would not recommend the bagless version.

I’d still stick with the C1 it’s made in Germany. The C2 (while still great) is made in China. If you are only using it for hard floor get the C1 pure suction. If you want it to do carpets too, C1 cat and dog.

Check out r/vacuumcleaners As mentioned Miele and Sebo are top brands. You can safely ignore any shark or Dyson recs. They’re garbage. As is anything bagless.

Vacuum wars is a paid shark shill and not to be trusted. Hell Chris even appeared in a shark commercial. BIFL vacuums absolutely exist. They’re corded and bagged made by brands like Miele and Sebo.

Miele, Sebo or Lindhaus. Check out r/vacuumcleaners

This is the answer! You can still get a Miele for only hard flooring.

Agree with J3ttf! The Miele is a worthy splurge!